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To continue my quest of checking out ancient games in my library, this one was actually added more recently. I really enjoyed the combat and exploration to this game, and how open it felt and nothing seemed like a "wrong answer". Shooting dudes with magic, or an arrow, throwing a box at them, or kicking them off a ledge or into a spike wall, all viable. Where it did feel old was swapping between these things, and melee combat (at least for my build) felt typically impractical with faster enemies near the end who seemed to kill me in a few quick hits. Definitely scratched a fun itch of physics based combat that just isn't explored in the same way anymore, and I recommend playing to this day.

Dark Messiah es uno de los juegos que me encantaría ver en un remake porque el gameplay es extremadamente interesante, pero está rodeado de una enorme cantidad de problemas.

Nada más empezar, en el aspecto técnico es un juego complicado. Aunque esto es muy personal porque varía enormemente de un ordenador a otro, lo cierto es que he tenido menos problemas y crasheos con TES IV Oblivion sin modear que en este título, y son del mismo año. Con el parche para hacer que admita más RAM y algunas cosas más he conseguido que sea una experiencia más o menos estable, pero ha sido una odisea hasta llegar ahí y sigue sin ser perfecto.

Todo lo que rodea la experiencia principal de este juego, el combate, también deja bastante que desear. La historia varía entre cliché y mala, el mundo es genérico y poco interesante, salvo por algún detalle curioso de lore, y el aspecto sonoro es simplemente servicial.

Por el contrario el combate es, teóricamente, muy interesante. No eres un Dios entre mortales, segando vidas con tu fuerza y habilidades sobrehumanas. En su lugar tienes que pensar en como usar el escenario para acabar con los enemigos de la forma más eficiente posible, porque en el combate directo vas a estar siempre en desventaja; los enemigos siempre son más, van a hacer más daño, tienen más vida y saben defenderse tan bien o incluso mejor que tú. Todo esto hace que debas usar el arsenal de objetos que haya en el lugar, tus hechizos y tu ingenio para poder sobrevivir. Destacar en esto los hechizos, que si bien no son nada revolucionarios en los tipos que se te presentan lo que los hacen tan divertidos son sus interacciones con el escenario. En general la premisa del combate es muy parecida a otros juegos posteriores de la desarrolladora (Dishonored principalmente) pero con un grado de libertad superior. Sin embargo, a la hora de ponerlo en práctica la realidad es bastante decepcionante.

El mayor problema es que el juego se nota muy torpe en su estado técnico. Unos cuantos ejemplos;
-Los enemigos te hacen daño con ataques que ni siquiera parecen ataques.
-Al lanzar objetos del escenario parece que no apunta como debería, lanzándolos por encima de la mira, pero solo a veces.
-Hay veces, dependiendo de la posición en la que estés, que ciertos ataques te darán a pesar de estar bloqueando.
-Otras veces tu ataque fuerte no romperá la defensa de un enemigo.
-Se nota que la patada tarda un poco en darse cuenta si hay un peligro detrás del enemigo. Cuando hay ciertos elementos detrás de una criatura, esta saldrá volando, pero habrá veces en las que no colisione con el objeto en cuestión. Esto se nota mucho en con los pinchos que hay en ciertos niveles y provoca que en mitad de un combate no esté seguro de si el enemigo que has pateado ha muerto o no.
Y estos son solo cosas referentes al combate. El movimiento del personaje también tiene problemas extraños, como hacer la animación de subirse a una cornisa y caerte de todas formas o que si corres y saltas parece que el personaje corre en el aire. Y este es el verdadero motivo de querer un remake juego, la enorme cantidad de problemas que trae a nivel técnico que lastran un combate muy interesante.

Fuera de los problemas técnicos, también querría comentar dos cosas que simplemente no funcionan bien. Primero, el sistema de combate no cuadra bien con los enemigos grandes. Como no se rigen por las mismas reglas, al final son combates en los que se nota que cheesear es la mejor opción. Y segundo, los modos de dificultad están rotos, especialmente en la máxima dificultad. En esta, los enemigos tienen tanta vida y tienen tanto daño que hay ciertas mecánicas que parecen no servir de nada, como cierta habilidad que se desbloquea en el último tercio del juego o ciertas armas de late game. Esos golpes raros que he comentado antes son básicamente oneshots en esta dificultad, lo que se nota extremadamente injusto.

Really cool RPG elements and story. Gameplay and parkour feels a bit clunky sometimes. Still, solid gameplay

So according to many "experts" this is supposed to be a masterpiece? Don't make me laugh^^ Well, kicking the enemies away is fun and the physics in combat are generally quite funny...for about 5 minutes ;D Unfortunately, the game has major weaknesses in most areas. The quality of the level design varies wildly, sometimes quite nice, sometimes absolutely confusing and crap (looking at you - spider temple), the story is absolute garbage and the dialog is written so incredibly awkward and crappy, it almost hurt. This whole idea of "freedom of choice" is also super shallow and clichéd...what a disappointment...I thought I'd left this "masterpiece" lying around in my backlog for too long but honestly, I haven't missed anything here.

Sorry, Xana. The only love I have is for Allah.


Amazingly innovative action/RPG, from back when big-budget fantasy titles in the first person-perspective were quite the anomaly. The freedom this one offers in terms of tailoring the experience to your playstyle makes it endlessly enjoyable to replay.

This is the hardest game to recommend but I would get this on sale if possible. The core gameplay is really fun, kicking dudes around and throwing boxes at them is amazing. I can't stress enough how much fun combat is against humanoid enemies.

You can kick dudes off ledges, into spike racks, and other hazards, you can even kick them into each other. It's a first person swordfighting game where you use the environment way more than any other weapon.

Sadly the game has other types of enemies where these mechanics are basically nonexistent. And to make matters worse, there's a fucking story there too. It's so stupid and generic I really did try to just ignore it, pretend this game is just about some dude that kicks a bunch of dudes into spikes and call it a day.

Also be prepared for crashes, this is an old ass source engine game not made by Valve, so the game will slowly begin to fall apart more and more as time goes on. Near the end I was crashing around every 25 minutes or so.

The game's balancing is awful too. Magic is so hard to use correctly, it's always just better to rely on your sword. Game also goes on way too long, and things get kinda old after the 40 trillionth kick.

Still despite all of that, you can get this on sale for like 5 bucks sometimes, and it's enjoyable enough. Buy this if you love kicking dudes around, funny ragdolls, and completely ignoring the garbage ass story.

Well runs dry pretty quick on this one as soon as it mostly drops human enemies for little ghouls and spiders and becomes a "run around caves looking for the next area" simulator. Despite this though, it manages to set up some real next level fun situations when you get to fight the humanoid characters and kick them off cliffs and into campfires over and over and over again.

a capeta gostosa só me irritou o jogo todo

Call me an empty flesh vessel, but I didn't really find much to like in this game. Yes, you can kick people off ledges. Yes, there's funny physics. But it all feels cheap and not at all in service to a story that feels cobbled together from medieval fantasy tropes.

Too many glitches, crashes, jank, some times enemies 1 shot you and aren’t blockable sometimes you cant hit them but the good combat is ruined by dumb AI and bugs.

Absolutely kick ass gameplay with one of the worst stories I've ever seen in a game. I wish they would've done a sequel to this where they went all in on the immersive sim influences.

pretty good core gameplay and some interesting ideas but also some bullshit jank and some really annoying male-gazey characters

patadon en los cojones te mando a volar

I originally heard about Dark Messiah through a personal recommendation from a buddy of mine, when we were talking about cool wizard games, with complex casting systems that make you really feel like you're mastering a school of magic. The only other games I can think of with magic systems that are actually interesting and have any modicum of depth to them would be Noita and Magicka, and loathe as I am to admit it, that club isn't getting any new members after my playthrough of this game. However, that's not to say the game doesn't have any tricks up it's sleeve.

A joke I heard once about the game that I keep unashamedly regurgitating, mainly due to how it perfectly encapsulates the gameplay loop, is that you DON'T play Dark Messiah like you're trying to larp as Gandalf, blasting giant spiders with fireballs and making orcs feel the wrath of God with a lightning bolt or two. Instead, you play it like you're Macaulay Culkin, using your admittedly limited arsenal of spells, combined with your quick wit and the sacred jank of the source engine, to lure unsuspecting necromancers into physics-based death traps. Crushing them under crates suspended above a flimsy wooden ceiling, freezing the floor by a big drop and watching them slide to their death, spartan kicking a goblin into a spike trap, or even just slamming a chair over their head to throw them to the floor, lining them up for an easy finisher.

As fun as it can be to kill fantasy monsters with unorthodox, slapstick methods, though, the game unfortunately doesn't have a lot going for it besides all that. The combat, especially outside of the magic system, is extremely bare-bones and you'll get tired of trying to win fights fairly really quick. There's also not much to speak of in terms of presentation or plot, other than the typical rpg schlock of "hurr le ancient prophesy durr your dad is the devil lmao durr" and all the funny looks you'll be getting from people that comes with that territory. At least you get a hot demon lady living in your head for the trouble, but I wish she'd stop coming on so strong. I know you want me, Xana, but now is not the time. Everything else, the characters, voice acting, world, music, monster designs, it's all servicable-for-rpg-standards at best and downright comical at worst. Though, I suppose that does compliment the already comical nature of the game.

All in all, however, in spite of it's flaws as a holistic gameplay experience and having quite possibly the least mechanical depth out of any Arkane game pre-Deathloop (most likely due to interference from Ubisoft), the beauty of sourcejank combined with the cartoonish nature of the combat encounters make for a unique gameplay experience I have yet to see repeated or improved upon, especially within the boundaries of a toolset provided to you by a fantasy world. Dark Messiah isn't going to blow you away, but you're sure as hell gonna blow those orcs away. Right off a cliff.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is vulgar auteurism in game form. The hallmarks of Arkane's oeuvre are all here, but with none of the polish or restraint you're used to. Violence and sex and the plots of the pulpiest fantasy books you've ever read swirl like ether in its sorcerous hands. It's what Thief would be if the developers were influenced by Half-Life 2 instead of Ultima Underworld. Dark Messiah is clearly an immersive sim, but tune your expectations of what that means: instead of intricate stealth sandboxes, it throws you into a linear, setpiece-heavy physics playpen where your greatest joy will be finding increasingly grotesque ways of murdering orcs. It's hard to believe that the dedicated kick button didn't permanently alter the course of FPS design the way Halo's regenerating health did.

It's also insanely horny, like it was written by the guy from your first high school D&D game who was always trying to seduce the NPCs. It's janky, it's too dark to see half the time, and it would crash at least once every hour, even after I found a fix to stop the most game-breaking crashes. When it works, though, it's also a brisk, bloody, brilliant time.

All you need to know is that this game is in the source engine and this game gives you a spell with the sole purpose of sending funny ragdolls down cliff edges

Un juego del que deberían sacar un remake, porque tenía una historia y unas mecánicas que siguen funcionando a día de hoy, pero que a nivel visual y de 'calidad de vida' se ha quedado bastante anticuado. Es su época era muy fan.

Damn, even the one thing people liked about deathloop (the kick) wasn't even original, they did it first here

Honestly kind of upset I didn't know about this game back in my Valve phase in High School bc even with though it's VERY flawed I would've been all over it.

The story's flat out just bad, but I think it bounces back and becomes a bit funny at points for how hard it tries. It's as generic medieval as it gets but the fact that Sareth is the most clueless person on the planet and keeps going with the demon chick in your head that constantly wants to bang you despite being very clearly evil is kinda funny to me.

The core melee combat straight up never gets old. Everything has good weight to it and the ragdolls are always funny even if it is jank at points. I feel like archery and most of the magic abilities are kind of useless and only show their uses sometimes but even still it's a solid foundation. Where the game really loses steam for me is during the later half when you fight mostly non-humanoid enemies. Spiders are just annoying to fight period and undead take FOREVER unless you've got a weapon that explicitly works against them, which you don't get until near the end of the game and if you have strength 3. Chapter 5 and 6 were the absolute worse with this and it didn't help either they had some of the worst levels in the game. I didn't get lost at all until those levels because it's only then when it decides that it wants to be revolved around solving a puzzle in one area.

Some of the skills are also kind of just useless imo, and really feel like they're just there because either they felt they needed it to be there or were just remnants of when they wanted this game to be Arx II and didn't bother to remove it. Stealth exists and can be done but it's honestly not well executed or really that fun to do, burglary is honest to god only used for some treasure chests that have locks and nothing else, and pickpocketing just speaks for itself, there's no reason to ever use it.

That's the biggest thing with this game. When it sticks to what it does best (being a FPP Melee game with light imsim elements), it's really fun. When it tries to be more then that, it falls flat on it's face. Again, I get they wanted this game to be Arx Fatalis II before realizing they couldn't get the rights anymore, and Ubisoft was the only company willing to fund their game so long as they tied it to M&M, but at a certain point I feel like they should've just ditched some of those other aspects they wanted and just focused on what worked, being the general melee combat.

Only other issue is this game no matter what is unstable as shit. It's probably the most unstable Source game I've played period. I did the hex edit fix so that the game would use more then 2GB of ram and even then it still crashed pretty often, alongside sometimes just softlocking if I alt-tabbed. I'm curious to see if that improves over time though with Ubisoft actually giving this game's community free reign over modding support now. Overall, worth a play if you find for very cheap. Not perfect, but worth experiencing just for the gameplay alone.

This review contains spoilers

Very hard but amazing game with a lot of realism.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is a unique experience. It shares story and characters from the Heroes of Might and Magic series but is a completely standalone game with a surprisingly good story, solid mechanics and an unforgiving difficulty.

In Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, you are an apprentice called Sarteh, trained by a master magician named Phenrig, trained in the arts of combat and magic. You complete your training and need to go to an expedition to the city of Stonehelm. Your master plants a spirit inside your head named Xana, who guides you on your travels.

You need to search for the Skull of Shadows, an artifact that your master Phenrig and his buddy Menelag, lord of Stonhelm want you find. That night, the city is attacked by Necromancers and a cyclops and after defeating them, your search for the skull continues. The Crystal that you found is then stolen by a Ghoul in the night. You follow it and find out that a necromancer called Arantir is behind the attack. He eventually finds the Skull of Shadow and one can only imagine what he is planning to do with it. You eventually meet Leanna, a chick that helps you on your journey.

You learn that Xana is actually a demon that possesses you and besides finding and destroying Arantir, you need to banish her from your system, what you eventually do. Then you take the fight to Arantir, getting hindered by Orcs, Goblins and a Pao Kai in the process. You dispose of the Orc war chief and start your battle with Arantir. After defeating him, you decide the final fate of the Skull of Shadows, spawning one of the four different endings the game offers.

You can earn skill points in combat to improve your skill tree. There is no bound class for you to master so you are free to spend your points however you want. However, you need to think about the feats and skills you want to master because “a little bit of everything” is not going to work out for this game. I really loved the RPG elements in this game. You collect potions, scrolls, food, weapons and items on your travels to improve and heal your character. Some items are hidden well but are worth it to find to give you the advantage that you desperately need at times. The items are well balanced too in terms of availability and are overall well designed.

For the time, I thought (and still think) that Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is one of the best-looking games out there. I was stunned by its realistic graphics, its animations, the view bobbing of the main characters, the fact that you could see your own feet and limbs and the incredible detail of the environments. Even today, this game looks like it is just four years old or something, but it is actually almost thirteen years. The enemies look horrifying and very detailed, and the overall tint is colorful but very grim at the same time. A unique combination.

The music has that typical Heroes of Might and Magic vibe and never fails to impress when in combat, running away from hordes of zombies or when fighting epic bosses. The sound effects are solid, and this is one of the games in my personal top ten when it comes to sound. The kling sound of the swords, the impact of your kicks, the footsteps, the magic attacks, the sounds and speech of enemies, it is all just perfect.

The controls work fine but because of the realism this game offers in movement and platforming, it can be a little stiff and clunky sometimes. Jumps need to be perfect, and your range is limited. It takes some time to master but when you do, it could just as well be a VR game.

The combat mechanics and style of fighting in Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is also really unique and still one of the most realistic feeling out there. You can block, dodge, kick and really need to get control of the situation. Mainly because of the outstanding AI that enemies use, in which they can outsmart you easily, drive you into a corner or simply land a hit on you before you got time to figure out what they are going to do. You can also interact with the environment, kicking enemies in spikes for example or smashing them off ledges. It feels so epic and satisfying when you nail an Orc to the spike wall behind him and overall, I think it is perfection. The enemies are almost human players in their actions and behavior and to this day, I believe it is one of the best and most realistic combat experiences I have ever played.

The realism in combat, movement and platforming makes this game also really, really hard. The whole game has a vibe of danger, helplessness and caution over it. You cannot rush towards your goal and hope for the best, every step can be a trap, an enemy lurking around the corner or a jump that you need to plan carefully. I also thought this game had a very grim atmosphere. Your character Sareth is really cautious and overall, not that positive about the events around him and because this is one of the few games that let you bond automatically with the fate of the main character, you can feel his questions and cautious behavior too. It is a little hard to explain.

In conclusion, I thought Dark Messiah of Might and Magic was an amazing game that came out of the blue and it still a unique specimen in the Might and Magic series and games in general. It is hard as the seventh layer of hell but well worth it in the end.

Definitely recommend this awesome game.

Playing this game in 2023 reminds me of why I started to love gaming in the first place. I don't care about numbers going up as much as figuring out what kind of goofy antics I can get into with my magic. It's a little janky, sure, but this is head and shoulders above most games in fun factor.


Recommended
6.2 hrs at review time
Gameplay 6/10
Music and sound 6/10
Screenplay 5/10
Technical 5/10

Absolutamente roto y con una trama hecha por un absoluto pajero con fantasias de poder, me encanta.
Ahora necesito que todos los videojuegos tengan un boton de patada que mande volando al que me crucé.

Занимательная боёвка, но отвратительный «интуитивный» левел дизайн.