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yes, this game is ridiculous and unfair a lot of the time but I found that playing with the luxury of save states makes it a much more manageable and even enjoyable challenge - you don't have to be hugely punished for each mean trick Nintendo pulls and can just laugh at the absurdly Mario Maker esque level design, load up and move on.

except the mazes, fuck them

Très fun et intéressant...

... Quand on utilise le replay de l'émulateur NSO à chaque fois qu'on tombe mdr

Imagine Super Mario Bros but more annoying. But also, the first game is so easy, this game does wonders by being actually difficult. The mazes suck though.


So many hard and fast lines in the sand drawn around this one. 'Bad level design,' 'this game HATES you,' etc. All coming from the fundamental feeling that this game is in some way, doing it wrong. It is not just un-fun. It is a complete misunderstanding of what makes a game fun. Even though I see where people are coming from, I can't agree. This game's approach isn't wrong, its goals are just so different from what games normally strive for that it feels completely alienating.

To understand why The Lost Levels is the way it is, we need only look at when it was released. This game is not Miyamoto and Company's follow-up to Super Mario Bros. First, earlier in 1986, he and former AD Takashi Tezuka (who shares the director chair with Miyamoto on this game as well) went to work on The Legend of Zelda. Nowadays, the original Zelda also feels pretty alien. Without a guide, its puzzles can feel completely random. To modern sensibilities, it looks like needless obfuscation in service of nothing. But immersing a player in a game and making the immense financial investment of one worth it was a very different task in the 80s. You could angle for intense difficulty to extend runtime, a common ploy. Instead, Zelda forged a new path. With a manual full of hints in hand, players were encouraged to take notes, create their own maps, and endlessly trial and error. It's padding! But it's the kind of padding that deepens the experience. It's how you get people brainstorming how to find Ganon with their friends on the playground at lunch, and these are the people who will treasure the game forever. It can feel like a guide game now, but if you give yourself over to the experience, manual and all, you can still see sparks of what made it such a revolution.

This is not an easily replicable formula. A part of me feels like the release of Zelda broke everyone at Nintendo's brains. Looking at the games coming out in the wake of Zelda, even those cashing in on the post-Mario platforming boom, you see an abrupt shift. Suddenly an Ice Climbers started looking more like a Metroid or Kid Icarus. Tasked with making a sequel to Super Mario Bros, our dynamic duo began to experiment with ways they could introduce their new approach to level design to the setting of Mario, while simultaneously expanding upon the ideas of the first game and giving this one its own identity.

The approach they took was one of a reactive, retaliatory, sequel. Commercially, a bad call. Sequels of this ilk rarely go over well with fans. Think of a film like The Last Jedi. It plays on the rhymes, rhythms and preconceived notions of the series (and its fan base) to dramatic effect. However you think that turned out (my lawyer has advised I abstain from commenting), it was deeply contentious and outright rejected by many diehard fans. Putting aside how interesting I find this game, Nintendo of America was unusually canny to realise releasing this as Mario 2 would have been ruinous.

What came of this daring experiment? A game infamous for unreasonably punishing difficulty. Depending on how it hits you, this game can feel like it's mocking you. The decision to include constant (what had not yet been coined) trolls in the forms of invisible blocks, whacked-out enemy positioning and the like is pretty immediately off-putting. What makes it even more aggravating is how intentional it is. 8-3 is awash with invisible blocks present only to punish you for trying to deal with hammer bros in the way the two games have taught you is most effective. Multiple levels have gaps that punish you for running blindly at max pace in a game whose predecessor was most fun when you were doing just that. 4-1 has an arbitrary single block pit at the end specifically to kill you if you randomly hold back a little bit in fear after this entire game has told you to exercise more caution. It is absurd!

Did you ever see that Hbomberguy video on Pathologic? A great watch, but one thing about it always confused me. After an entire multi-hour discussion on how intellectually invigorating, deeply immersive and artistically enriching he found the game, he continued to insist it wasn't fun. Who is Bomberman trying to kid here? We (Gamers) continue to insist fun only has one form. That is the 'reasonable challenge that can be comfortably overcome in a satisfying amount of time with minimal outside assistance' kind of fun. A perfectly valid kind of fun that this game cannot accommodate. But there are many forms of fun. Major nerd alert in coming here, but engaging with the artistic intentions and themes of a work with a lot to say and an exciting way of saying it is fun! Playing an influential game wherein the ideas and innovation are still visible within many games you love, putting yourself into the mental context of the time, is fun! Most relevantly, engaging in a back-and-forth with an artist stretching the limits of their sensibilities, disregarding the wants and needs of the audience, and completely indulging themselves in ideas usually considered frustrating or flat-out wrong is a kind of fun! It might not be your kind of fun, but it certainly is mine.

From start to finish, I have the cheesiest grin playing this thing. I and the collected workers of Nintendo R&D4 are sitting in a theatre, watching the perfectly timed Looney Tune nonsense of their game play out, again and again, for hours on end, and just laughing and laughing. The crucial thing to realise here is what we are laughing at. Not you certainly, there is no victim to this tomfoolery. Instead, it is giddy in the realisation it can turn every expectation of a platformer into an anti-joke. It's dragging you along with it. Do so dutifully and be bored, or join it in its enthusiasm and have a blast. I choose the latter.

The Lost Levels feels especially revolutionary after seeing exactly how many Mario fans would follow its approach to iterating on the series. Doggy doo-doo bullshit like Cat Mario, or fun things like Kaizo Rom-hacks and those hysterically stupid Mario Maker levels, have all, consciously or not, taken this as a veritable how-to guide. You don't have to like these, but I find it oddly beautiful that their scumfuckery isn't just approved of by the original work, but predated by it.

And after everything said here, you can just have a good time with this. Grab a drink, be ready to google how to beat the unreasonable mazes, and drop a save state or two on most levels. You're golden.

This game doesn't hate you, it's too giddy for you to even factor into the equation. It's a little kid who wants to show you their scribbling. Maybe the final piece makes no sense, but you have to love the boundless enthusiasm behind it. I’d stick it on my fridge!

Una de las peores secuelas que se hayan creado que no comprende en lo más mínimo lo que hacia bueno al primer juego, encima siendo más de lo mismo con pocos añadidos nuevos. Gracioso que el romhack que se hizo para estados unidos sea infinitamente mejor.

It’s great if you wanna play an NES Mario game as luigi, otherwise this game can go fuck itself

Iterative sequel of a mid game, except with overtly malicious level design and nonfunctional gimmicks

Nintendo, this is cruelty, thank god it was only in Japan for years. The levels aren't even the worst part, playing through this game 8 times WITHOUT warping to 100% the game is the worst part, I haven't even achieved this yet.

(completed on mario all-stars)

world 5 has some of the best mario levels ever made

unfortunately, level 8-4 is the worst thing I have ever played

There's absolutely worse games than this out there, I just hold a personal hatred for this one in particular. 💀

Ultimately just feels like a hard level pack of mario 1 where you can play as luigi. That would usually make the game more interesting but I find the level design to just be not as good as the first. Ultimately I feel american mario 2 was a better sequal even if technically it was a reskin of another game.

Tão divertido quanto arrancar suas unhas com um alicate.

Underrated it’s way better than the original because it’s got a real challenge I guess it can be a little too difficult in some places but it’s largely manageable plus idc if I keep on getting game overs because it’s still so much more engaging

Poor sequel to the original. Filled with random stuff with the sole purpose of annoying the player. Possibly the original kaizo game.

I always heard that this game is bad, that is one of the worst sequels of all time, and I though "it's a Mario game, it can't be that bad". Unfortunately I was wrong.

First, I will talk about the positives:
You can choose to play both with Mario and Luigi. Mario plays exactly as the first game, and Luigi for the first time jumps higher and walks more slippery.
The poison mushrooom is a cool idea. Unfortunately that's all the positives.

Now, let's talk about the flaws:
The graphics are exactly the same as the first game, there are little to no new things. The physics stays the same, without any enhancement.

The game only has one new enemy (If you don't count the poison mushroom and recolors of other enimies), and it is a flying Blooper, that acts exactly the same as the first game, but this time on the air, and is pretty anoying.

So, it looks like the first game, plays like the first game, and why it is so much worse than the first game?
The level desing is just horrible, they wanted to creat a more difficult experience but it isn't well done. Don't metter how good you are on the first game, you will suffer to complete The Lost Levels, you can't predict what the game will do next, it can give you a warp zone that send you back to a previous world. It can put a invisible block to make you fall and get a less points on the flag at the end of the level, and force you to make jumps that you can't see where you are going.
There are a lot of moments where you make jumps using springs, but the physicis of these springs are terrible.
They increase the number of levels that trap you into a loop until you eventually find the exit, even placing levels like this outside of the castles. (it was the worst part of Super Mario Bros. 1)

Finally, the lack of news, the cheap difficult make this game feels like a bad hack rom of the first game, i don't recommend it.

Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (called Super Mario Bros. 2 in Japan) is one of the most underwhelming sequels of all time.

I could give Nintendo a bit of slack here, considering that I think they probably didn't know exactly how to follow up one of the most iconic games of all time, but just giving us a harder version of the 1st game is disappointing.

Unlike the original game, which had a pretty good difficulty curve (until the last world), this one just decides to constantly play with you, giving you traps and gotcha moments, and making invisible blocks mandatory for progression.

The only reason why I'm giving the game the score that I'm giving is because it plays like the 1st game, and looks like it (with some minor extra graphical details).

But its level design is so bleh that it barely gives me any fun at the beginning, and gives me no fun by the end.

Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels is a bleh sequel.

Un juego con una dificultad dificil porque es injusta.
Mario 2 USA es mejor

Um verdadeiro teste de paciência, resiliência e coragem para zerar essa merda de jogo. O lado positivo é que agora posso defender com força do porquê trocarem os sprites de um outro jogo da Metendo para fazer uma sequência ocidental. Puta merda.

this game was made by satanic people who hate sunshine, rainbows, laughter, puppies and every joyous thing in between. fortunately miyamoto found God and redeemed himself with mario 3 so he wouldn't repeat the same mistakes 🛐


The hardest, most unfair and demented the Mario Franchise has ever produced.

If I have to pick a Mario reskinned "remaster" (no more waterfall seizures, yey) of an unreleased Famicom game or a more difficult version of the previous game I'd pick the first one anytime.

It's still the original SMB1 at the core.
Just with mechanics that will make your life hell (Luigi being good at jumping but slippery and not controlling well as Mario, wind direction changing, more frustrating castle levels for the right path memorizations...).

Yeah, Mario wasn't that lucky (but not horrible either, for us westerns it was all still pretty cool) with the number two. With the number three, however...

Depois do imenso sucesso que foi o primeiro jogo, Miyamoto olhou o jogo e as pessoas felizes jogando ele e pensou:
「似たようなゲームを作るつもりだけど、誰もプレイしたくないようなもっと愚かなゲームを作るつもりだ」

E ninguém nunca entendeu isso.

Meu Deus que jogo difícil, level design parece uma fase de Super Mario Maker e não apresenta nada novo além de alguns gráficos mudados e a gameplay terrível do Luigi. O primeiro Super Mario merecia mais que um extra com fases mais difíceis mesmo o jogo não sendo horrível.