yeah this runs better and is less goofy but you're not getting shot by enemies you can't see on that one and the overall experience of fighting against the game and awkward objective/level design is present in both. this one sure has ambitions in regards to not just being doom-y mazes but sometimes it ends up kinda being that anyway. the objective system is pretty superfluous, the objectives are underexplained, aiming is so bad it needs to have Super Auto Aim to be anywhere near playable. and then you have stuff like levels 3 and 4 where it's barely got any level design at all? level 3 is pretty much just a corridor lmfao

genuinely baffled there are people who think this is particularly good. yeah quake wasn't on n64 yet but it had been out on pc for a while so i dont give a shit. the MP is fun/funny but it can only entertain so much today seeing it runs at 10 frames per second and aiming is so bad

surface 2 is one of the laziest things in recorded history, bunker 2 sucks, every level starting with train is excruciating, cradle isn't so bad but it runs at like 5 fps for some of it so i'll include it. control does suck but the scientists on caverns are my sworn enemies, train is some bullshit (i had to get to natalya 4 times before beating it), jungle runs like crap and the visibility and boss fight are precarious

let me develop more on control. i didn't die once on the standoff but it gave me flashbacks to those boring parts on half life 2 and ep 2 and the stuff before it has some awwwful design too. the very first turret pretty much requires you rub yourself into the wall until you find a comfortable to shoot spot lest you wanna lose half your health, the room with the grenade guys makes them be so barely visible from a somewhat safe distance, you have to wait for that natalya animation every attempt. the level's got like 5 turrets, coming right after jungle which has like 6. why. they shoot so fast

virtual hydlide is fucking awful technically but it's genuinely way less frustrating and a more enjoyable experience once you get past the slideshow framerate. aesthetically it's less "acceptable" but way better than this barely readable blurry (even for n64!!) mess

like i own body harvest which is Blurry but it's way more readable