This review contains spoilers
Was originally going to write a long review about how this game differs from Subahibi but after somehow being able to finish Kotomi route and reading half into the Zakuro route, I have no energy to read this because I'm not interested anymore.
Yeah I know what happens in Yasuko view and I couldn't care less. I get why Scaji remade Tsui no Sora from groundup while writing Subahibi. This game doesn't have anything that made Subahibi interesting. ANYTHING. Even the new additions don't help.
So I'll only share my notes on Philosophical, scientific and religious, references and quotes mentioned in the game:
The books and topics Yukito and Ayana talk about:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique_of_Pure_Reason
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2529/2529-h/2529-h.htm
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/52821/52821-h/52821-h.htm
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomy
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism
Yukito's monologue about ending of this movie, pretty cool btw would recommend watching:
- https://letterboxd.com/film/wittgenstein/
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TM0zA2_5UE
32-37 of this is the starting phrase of Dostoevsky's Demons, and mentioned in the game by either Ayana or Yukito. Can't remember which.
- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/luke/8?lang=eng
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)
Ayana talks about this book, fun fact; this book was written years after the time the game set in. And also is about Octopuses. Totally not Cthulhu or Yog-Sothoth:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Minds:_The_Octopus,_the_Sea,_and_the_Deep_Origins_of_Consciousness
Can't remember what these were about but Ayana and Yukito had a talk about these:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem
One of Takuji's rants with Kotomi mention this:
- https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B3%95%E8%8F%AF%E4%B8%83%E5%96%A9
Oh also Ayana is 'revealed' to be Yog-Sothoth and the Mahou Shoujo Riruru, like how it was implied in the Subahibi. I say 'revealed' because just like everything this has chance of being a Red Herring but I don't care.
I don't want to read a boring story because it has interesting Philosophical topics in it.
Yeah I know what happens in Yasuko view and I couldn't care less. I get why Scaji remade Tsui no Sora from groundup while writing Subahibi. This game doesn't have anything that made Subahibi interesting. ANYTHING. Even the new additions don't help.
So I'll only share my notes on Philosophical, scientific and religious, references and quotes mentioned in the game:
The books and topics Yukito and Ayana talk about:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique_of_Pure_Reason
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2529/2529-h/2529-h.htm
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/52821/52821-h/52821-h.htm
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomy
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism
Yukito's monologue about ending of this movie, pretty cool btw would recommend watching:
- https://letterboxd.com/film/wittgenstein/
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TM0zA2_5UE
32-37 of this is the starting phrase of Dostoevsky's Demons, and mentioned in the game by either Ayana or Yukito. Can't remember which.
- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/luke/8?lang=eng
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)
Ayana talks about this book, fun fact; this book was written years after the time the game set in. And also is about Octopuses. Totally not Cthulhu or Yog-Sothoth:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Minds:_The_Octopus,_the_Sea,_and_the_Deep_Origins_of_Consciousness
Can't remember what these were about but Ayana and Yukito had a talk about these:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem
One of Takuji's rants with Kotomi mention this:
- https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B3%95%E8%8F%AF%E4%B8%83%E5%96%A9
Oh also Ayana is 'revealed' to be Yog-Sothoth and the Mahou Shoujo Riruru, like how it was implied in the Subahibi. I say 'revealed' because just like everything this has chance of being a Red Herring but I don't care.
I don't want to read a boring story because it has interesting Philosophical topics in it.
4 Comments
Given that she is literally Scadi's self insert it makes sense. I really liked her conversations with Yukito even though I can only understand half of them because of my subpar understanding of Japanese and those topics. But I really hate that her general usage in the story is "Oh you got bored? Take your time and read this long ass rant on a subject you have no idea what it's about." She still is one of my favorite characters ever, and probably will continue to be forever.
But the rest of the story is,
stupid.
Characters are very poorly written and nothing is ever explained enough in the VN.
I get why Scadi wanted this to be only sold with Subahibi anniversary collection. It's whole target audience is hardcore Subahibi fanatics who wanted to learn what TnS was about. And what's the deal with Ayana is.
Also 'vn aesthetic' twitter/tiktok/tumblr users, somehow.
stupid.
Characters are very poorly written and nothing is ever explained enough in the VN.
I get why Scadi wanted this to be only sold with Subahibi anniversary collection. It's whole target audience is hardcore Subahibi fanatics who wanted to learn what TnS was about. And what's the deal with Ayana is.
Also 'vn aesthetic' twitter/tiktok/tumblr users, somehow.
Sudden infodumps of some topics was out of place, and it was boring to read, true.
You know, TnSRe is just like some recap of subahibi, represented as a decent product, which is a lie obviously. You can tell the story and characters are simple and not intriguing. I had this feeling, when I did read it right after suba.
So, in the end, we got the bait, but I'm not regretting it, because I completed it fast.
You know, TnSRe is just like some recap of subahibi, represented as a decent product, which is a lie obviously. You can tell the story and characters are simple and not intriguing. I had this feeling, when I did read it right after suba.
So, in the end, we got the bait, but I'm not regretting it, because I completed it fast.
HouseindaHouse
1 year ago