I honestly belive that Persona 5 is a curse for Atlus, in a way that no matter how much they try, they can't escape the Persona 5 narrative style and gameplay. I don't feel like it's their fault, but something they coercively have to do in order to please their new fans.
By the score you can already tell that i hate Reload, and no i don't hate it because i'm a Persona 5 hater or anything, i actually love Persona 5, i hate it because the Reload strips Persona 3 from every single thing that made me fall in love with it.
When i played Persona 3 FES i enjoyed the empty and grey city representing loneliness, isolation and sorrow through the protagonist eyes, how characters like Mitsuru were described like an Elegant, powerfull aura women and every time she entered the classrom to talk with the party everyone in the class looked at her, how the few NPCs interact with you in different ways acording to your social stats, the alternative sports Social Link, the different weapons the protagonist could use, not limiting yourself to a 1h sword, how tartarus felt like an opressive place with the thight hallways, the major silence and the omminus music playing, how some dungeons had i little puzzly thing like the motel, i liked the raw and violent animations of summoning your personas, i loved the fact that the most colorful place in the game was the dormitory representing a safe place to you and your friend, and above all, i loved how the party seems to like each other, seeing them always interacting and such, gave me a feeling of a group that trully enjoys each other presence and friendship in a multual way, different from P5, on that game the characters seems more of an Joker friend (or fan) than friends of each other, i enjoyed the Fatigue system, it's a good implementation on the thematic of balancing your relationships, study with the horrible part of fightin in tartarus, i liked the tatics system, even if it could be frustrating from time to time, it was not actually a problem since the game was balanced with that in mind, also, it gave the party a lot more personality and it was a good representation of the leadership from the protagonist, how the fallen apeared in a disturbed zombie like way scattered in every single place in the city... And most importantly my favorite thing from P3 Fes, was Aigis voice, man, i LOVED how Aigis voice subtly lost it's robotic effect every single time she presented an human behaviour, i still got chills just remembering the animation fight agains Thanatos, where her voice loses the robotic modifier and trembles while she says "i'm scared", and also, i don't understand the choice of having less animated scenes...
So.... Persona 3 Reload takes all of this away, i was sad when i finished P3R, because it has absolute nothing of the game i loved, P3R eliminates every single one of the mechanics and details i mentioned i detriment of a Persona 5 style of gameplay and narrative, Batton Pass is back and makes the game easy and boring, no weapons arsenal for the protagonist, the new summoning animations (yeah they are pretty) not having that violent and raw style animation is sad considering the game theme, the fact that you CAN'T play with the old tatics style because there are fewer options to order your party and the turn starter is choosen with the AG status in mind (so you can start a fight and see Junpei killing it self using a Physical skill on an enemy that reflects melee), the swiming club dosen't exist, Tartarus is an On foot version of the P5 version of Metaverse where your party is always making quirky no sense comentaries, talking about quirky and nonsensical, now every time a character has a emotion burst on the story they use a "critical animation" before anything is said, it's comically bad and annoying imo, the characters personalitys are not directly reflected in how they are presented in the scenes and the game, Aigis voice is normal from the beginning, the world is extremely colerful, full of people, the Fallen are now just faceless background npcs that most of the time can't even be seen, some character were basically rewriten, for example, Revolver Jesus is now some dumb fuck twitter right wing that makes stupid analogys with cars and act in a stupid nonsensical way, some of the characters got more screen time beacause atlus tried to over explain their action and in consequence you got a lot of dumb dialogues, like Junpei saying "forgetting everything is not so bad right? and 2 seconds latter saying "Yeah, i don't want to forget everything", the new scenes with Jin, Chidori and Tayaka just made the characters seem stupid and ripped off every single subjective interpretation that the player could have with this moraly grey (no not moraly grey anymore, just evil and dumb) characters, the new interactions with Ryoji, Pharos and the Chairman with the solely purpose of exposing what the characters are before the time is just infuriating, the new Aragaky sidequest has good intentions but it feels weird because, i mean, Arakagi acts with the protagonist in a better and more compreensive way than with their old friends... In fact, the new writing and narrative style of Persona 3 getting inspired by Persona 5 makes again, the party don't feel so friendly with each other, the characters now feel like an "Yes man" that it's statisfied with everything you do, a good example is that new interaction with Junpei where he says (You should make the choice man) regarding the Ryoji incident, the new boss dungeons are just straight forward boring corridors for the bosses, like, the monorail having no Enemies on the corridors, no enemies on the motel and Fukka giving the player the answer for the puzzle and the mirrors locations, the new tartarus sidequests of saving people are just boring, and the Monado doors and the clock are good QoL to mitigate part of the grinding, i enjoyed some new songs like "it's going down" but hated the remixes, what they did with Changin of Seassons is a fucking crime
It may seem like every single thing i said is "nitpicking" and even if they are, i can't help but feel disapointed with it, as i said, this were the things that made me fall in love with P3, the details, art style, feeling of the city all the things i mentioned and more are the reasons that a i enjoyed FES so much, and yeah, i'm frustrated, sad, disappointed that this things are not present in the remake, just so the "new version" could please the P5 Style fanbase (i don't even wanna mention the 30 bucks Persona 5 DLC pack)
With that said, you like P5 or don't care for any of the things i mentioned, Persona 3 Reload is a pretty well rounded game were the core story and meaning are still there (the performance is pretty weird on pc so be warned), it is in fact a good game, a shame that it is not the game i loved.
By the score you can already tell that i hate Reload, and no i don't hate it because i'm a Persona 5 hater or anything, i actually love Persona 5, i hate it because the Reload strips Persona 3 from every single thing that made me fall in love with it.
When i played Persona 3 FES i enjoyed the empty and grey city representing loneliness, isolation and sorrow through the protagonist eyes, how characters like Mitsuru were described like an Elegant, powerfull aura women and every time she entered the classrom to talk with the party everyone in the class looked at her, how the few NPCs interact with you in different ways acording to your social stats, the alternative sports Social Link, the different weapons the protagonist could use, not limiting yourself to a 1h sword, how tartarus felt like an opressive place with the thight hallways, the major silence and the omminus music playing, how some dungeons had i little puzzly thing like the motel, i liked the raw and violent animations of summoning your personas, i loved the fact that the most colorful place in the game was the dormitory representing a safe place to you and your friend, and above all, i loved how the party seems to like each other, seeing them always interacting and such, gave me a feeling of a group that trully enjoys each other presence and friendship in a multual way, different from P5, on that game the characters seems more of an Joker friend (or fan) than friends of each other, i enjoyed the Fatigue system, it's a good implementation on the thematic of balancing your relationships, study with the horrible part of fightin in tartarus, i liked the tatics system, even if it could be frustrating from time to time, it was not actually a problem since the game was balanced with that in mind, also, it gave the party a lot more personality and it was a good representation of the leadership from the protagonist, how the fallen apeared in a disturbed zombie like way scattered in every single place in the city... And most importantly my favorite thing from P3 Fes, was Aigis voice, man, i LOVED how Aigis voice subtly lost it's robotic effect every single time she presented an human behaviour, i still got chills just remembering the animation fight agains Thanatos, where her voice loses the robotic modifier and trembles while she says "i'm scared", and also, i don't understand the choice of having less animated scenes...
So.... Persona 3 Reload takes all of this away, i was sad when i finished P3R, because it has absolute nothing of the game i loved, P3R eliminates every single one of the mechanics and details i mentioned i detriment of a Persona 5 style of gameplay and narrative, Batton Pass is back and makes the game easy and boring, no weapons arsenal for the protagonist, the new summoning animations (yeah they are pretty) not having that violent and raw style animation is sad considering the game theme, the fact that you CAN'T play with the old tatics style because there are fewer options to order your party and the turn starter is choosen with the AG status in mind (so you can start a fight and see Junpei killing it self using a Physical skill on an enemy that reflects melee), the swiming club dosen't exist, Tartarus is an On foot version of the P5 version of Metaverse where your party is always making quirky no sense comentaries, talking about quirky and nonsensical, now every time a character has a emotion burst on the story they use a "critical animation" before anything is said, it's comically bad and annoying imo, the characters personalitys are not directly reflected in how they are presented in the scenes and the game, Aigis voice is normal from the beginning, the world is extremely colerful, full of people, the Fallen are now just faceless background npcs that most of the time can't even be seen, some character were basically rewriten, for example, Revolver Jesus is now some dumb fuck twitter right wing that makes stupid analogys with cars and act in a stupid nonsensical way, some of the characters got more screen time beacause atlus tried to over explain their action and in consequence you got a lot of dumb dialogues, like Junpei saying "forgetting everything is not so bad right? and 2 seconds latter saying "Yeah, i don't want to forget everything", the new scenes with Jin, Chidori and Tayaka just made the characters seem stupid and ripped off every single subjective interpretation that the player could have with this moraly grey (no not moraly grey anymore, just evil and dumb) characters, the new interactions with Ryoji, Pharos and the Chairman with the solely purpose of exposing what the characters are before the time is just infuriating, the new Aragaky sidequest has good intentions but it feels weird because, i mean, Arakagi acts with the protagonist in a better and more compreensive way than with their old friends... In fact, the new writing and narrative style of Persona 3 getting inspired by Persona 5 makes again, the party don't feel so friendly with each other, the characters now feel like an "Yes man" that it's statisfied with everything you do, a good example is that new interaction with Junpei where he says (You should make the choice man) regarding the Ryoji incident, the new boss dungeons are just straight forward boring corridors for the bosses, like, the monorail having no Enemies on the corridors, no enemies on the motel and Fukka giving the player the answer for the puzzle and the mirrors locations, the new tartarus sidequests of saving people are just boring, and the Monado doors and the clock are good QoL to mitigate part of the grinding, i enjoyed some new songs like "it's going down" but hated the remixes, what they did with Changin of Seassons is a fucking crime
It may seem like every single thing i said is "nitpicking" and even if they are, i can't help but feel disapointed with it, as i said, this were the things that made me fall in love with P3, the details, art style, feeling of the city all the things i mentioned and more are the reasons that a i enjoyed FES so much, and yeah, i'm frustrated, sad, disappointed that this things are not present in the remake, just so the "new version" could please the P5 Style fanbase (i don't even wanna mention the 30 bucks Persona 5 DLC pack)
With that said, you like P5 or don't care for any of the things i mentioned, Persona 3 Reload is a pretty well rounded game were the core story and meaning are still there (the performance is pretty weird on pc so be warned), it is in fact a good game, a shame that it is not the game i loved.
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@deadlydonut fico triste pois eu realmente queria ter gostado
pior que eu te entendo porque apesar de estar amando o Reload tem coisas específicas que sempre vão me fazer amar mais o FES, as cutscenes animadas por exemplo (a de awakening do Makoto que era uma cena incrível no OG por exemplo e ficou paia no Reload), a gameplay de Tactics que caparam nesse, etc
@deadlydonut Sim, eu nem acho o jogo "ruim" e até mesmo gosto de algumas novidades como as novas atividades no dormitório e formas de upar os status, mas infelizmente não consegui separar os meus sentimentos pelo FES enquanto jogava o Reload
deadlydonut
2 months ago