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One of the greatest and most unique stories I've ever read, I've always been a fan of plots that reveal so much over time they become unrecognizable from how they began and Umineko does this masterfully. One of the greatest things about this visual novel is how it genuinely does feel like a game playing push and pull with the characters and information at your hands even though you're not truly participating but following the script. The mc truly shines as his own dramatically moving character and as the anchor that keeps players steady amidst the chaotic and even stressful events of the story. He finds roadblocks and difficulties in the same places that the average person would and as it goes on he provides thoughts and ideas that help players build theories or solutions to the many riddles throughout the story. There's so much that can be said about Umineko but more than anything I want to acknowledge how it can affect your worldview. The ways of thinking and ideologies that you learn to adapt from trying to solve the mystery don't just fade away afterwards but stick with you. You begin to consider all possibilities, be more accepting and open to things that initially seem ridiculous as you see time and time again throughout the game how really possible such insane ideas can be. You see your relationships in a new light as the game teachers the importance of 1 to 1 bonds describing them as a "universe" shared between two people. And lastly as corny or cheesy as it may sound, you learn what it really means to love. This game's characters have such different yet all truly visceral and passionate displays of love all throughout, different relationships exemplifying certain aspects of love and the importance of each, jealousy, devotion, and sacrifice to name just a few. This story truly is life-changing in the best way possible and I would reccommend it tenfold.

Ep5: 8.0
Ep6: 8.0
Ep7:10
Ep8:7.5

Very good, but I couldn't fully appreciate episode 8. But episode 7 is definitely a masterpiece. And Furudo Erika is one of the best characters I saw.

ps: My rating is based on fantasy's pov alone, which is the wrong way of reading Umineko(personally saying), but that's how i firstly experienced it.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


i'm not exaggerating at all when i say this might genuinely be the greatest piece of fiction ever made

Parte final da minha vn favorita
Uma master piece sem igual de mistério e fantasia mesmo sendo 100 horas valeu cada tempo que eu investi
Battler e Beato virando meus personagens favoritos com um relacionamento muito fofo e divertido ao mesmo tempo (amo esse casal principalmente a beatrice)
Simplesmente ryukishi07 sendo ryukishi07

Changes the way you look at media. Must read.

This review contains spoilers

you can look for answers, but that ain't fun so get in the pit and try and love someone.

One of the best endings to a story I've ever experienced. I loved the four arcs but Episode 7 and 8 are just something special. I'll miss Furudo Erika. I love Battler. I love Ange. I love Eva. And of course, I adore Beatrice, one of my all-time favs for sure.

SIMPLESMENTE A MAIOR OBRA JÁ FEITA NA HISTÓRIA. RECEBA A MAGIA

Gets so far up it's own ass that it forgets what made eps 1-4 good to begin with. Ryukishi can't write meta fiction and can only kind of write mystery

This review contains spoilers

Let me explain. I don't hate Umineko. And I like Episode 7.

This review contains full Umineko VN spoilers and some minor manga expectations.

My issue with Umineko, especially Chiru and episode 8, isn't the less direct episode 7 reveal — I actually prefer the VN's approach to the manga's by far (where I think the Yasu Confessions chapter goes against her wishes in episode 7 and is worse for Umineko as a whole, despite being interesting on its own), and I actually like episode 7 quite a bit. I didn't like how in the manga Ryukishi basically changed the approach he was so insistent on with the VN and basically made a cheat sheet, as well as some other things, that made Umineko basically yet another mystery to me, losing part of what made it special despite my many issues with it. Some people aren't aware of this, but Umineko actually caused an outrage in Japan after finishing, mostly due to feeling like they were looked down upon (such as by the in-story goats and Erika) and not revealing the culprit directly. I think he got too much hate for this, and if anything, I completely disagree with the latter being an issue at all. One thing I really respect about Umineko to this day, especially in episode 7, is letting the reader connect the dots themself and make their conclusions, which made it unique. I also don't like how the manga basically made the episode 7 tea party 100% canon, making some of my issues, that I discuss later on, an even bigger deal for me.

My issue isn't Ange's escapism itself either, but more so the execution. This is a bit of a personal issue, so I don't think Umineko is "objectively bad" or anything, but long story short, I had a bit of a similar (but not exactly the same) experience as Ange as far as "not knowing" the real truth of a matter was and it being basically impossible to find it out, only having to rely on a "catbox" of contradicting accounts. It was bad enough to make myself closed off for years, so in that way I can relate to Ange. What I don't like though is that Ryukishi presents extremes of either her killing herself or basically revolving her life around baseless optimism, rather than a more realistic middle ground that someone would pick. I don't really get the idea of "the two extremes making the themes more beautiful", either. I've also been told that the magic ending is more "balanced", but Ange still ends up completely changing her way of life in any case, whether it be pursuing the mystery at the cost of having anything else in her life in the trick ending, or writing books and doing charity work due to the tragedy that happened in the magic ending. If we link that back to what I went through, my personal choice was that once I realised finding out "the truth" was impossible, I would move on by starting from square one in another place as my own person. I would remember the lessons taught and grieve for the people that I lost, but I would become my own person in a place where no one knew me. Of course, that also isn't the sole way to develop as a person if you have bad things happen to you, but I find it more believable. Ange basically written into a corner by Ryukishi where everything in her life sucks and it also felt forced because he really wanted these extremes to come up. I likely find this to be more of an issue than the average reader precisely due to how relatable the concept was to me.

Besides my own life experience, I also take issue with the way Ryukishi sees mysteries and himself as a mystery writer. For one, I'll point out that Ryukishi sees Higurashi and Umineko as works for different audiences. He considered Umineko to be a thinking man's media, so to speak, and not Higurashi, which is unfortunate to hear considering how much heart and soul he poured into it. Following up on this, it is weird how he limits himself to only referencing classical Western mystery novels and Japanese honkaku (rather than shinhonkaku), while also giving off the impression that he thinks he's the first one to ever do what he did. Other works have explored similar ideas to "without love it cannot be seen". Ryukishi is not the first one and I do not like how he acts like he figured out the mystery medium, while he purposefully limits himself to just classics, even going as far as being inspired by and mentioning Agatha Christie, even though she was pretty subversive and experimental herself even at the time. By the way, the first source I linked in this paragraph also confirms that he was, in fact, at least partially, looking down on some "loveless" readers through the goats, which I am not a fan of.

And speaking of "without love it cannot be seen", the way this idea is handled is really weird to me, especially in episode 8. For example, you have the Ushiromiya family basically get called "equally guilty" for causing the disaster, even though comparing Jessica, who did literally nothing wrong, or Maria to someone like Kyrie and Rudolf (who for example tortured Jessica to death, or enjoying killing children) is absolutely insane. And then you have the speech that Kyrie told Eva about how "she would be evil in different what-if circumstances", which with episode 8 and overall meta context is crazy. "Sure, Eva, I was the one who tortured and killed those people, but what if YOU were the one was the culprit?". Overall, I am a believer in "sympathise, don't empathise" in such situations, which some of those other shinhonkaku explore. Being told to feel equally sorry for Kyrie and Maria is just bizarre to me.

Other complaints I had included annoying gimmick characters like Sakutarou, repetition at the start of episodes 1-6 (though it got better after episode 3) and an almost fetishization of murder that a lot of mystery has the decency to be above, at least with innocent victims (like Eva-Beatrice throwing people up and down and up and down again). I also don't care about most episodes besides 1, 7, and maybe 3. 5 had some cool moments but was whatever and I thought 6 was underwhelming. Additionally, the console sprites (I am not a fan of the original WTC sprites outside of Ciconia) are quite mediocre, especially considering WTC's popularity. It's insane to me that WTC, as influential as it is, cannot get sprites with a better art style.

On the plus side, the music is incredible. Definitely top 3 OSTs of all time.

Finally, despite what I said, I have great respect for Ryukishi. He was a social worker (and it shows in Higurashi and Umineko), and he definitely was committed to his vision (before he got an unjust amount of hate for Umineko, and for the wrong things too, in my opinion). I just think that he does not know what he's talking about when it comes to some types of trauma like Ange's and the mystery genre. Again, I don't think Umineko is "objectively" bad, and I do admit I have a bit of bias, but as someone who has been on both sides of the fence (I once had it at a 10), I've had various perspectives on it, and I think that, despite now thinking mostly negatively about it, I will continue thinking about it from time to time in years to come.

The best piece of fiction ever created. MASTERPIECE.

5 - 6 are probably my favorite episodes of Umi, mostly bc of a specific intellectual rapist.

It's Umineko, nothing I can say can really take away how much of a trip this VN is and how well written it's large cast of characters are, and was probably one of the most beautifully put together stories or piece of fiction in general i've ever read.

I never thought I needed to understand what magic was, how does a piece of media just reconstruct the idea of magic so beautifully in a mystery novel of all things while being a love letter to said genre? to say it's changed my perspective on a lot of things is an understatement.

This story will stay with me for a long time, 200+ hours well spent.

Rest, rest in piece in the illusion that you created,

Rest well my beloved witch, Beatrice.

I am not the same person i was before i started this

(The second half of) one of my favorite pieces of media maybe, uh, ever.

Moral of the story: Have sex with your aunt.

It's got art. It's got tunes. It's got style. Not much grace.
A shame the main character by the end is a complete shrewd and unlikable. I did really enjoy my time playing this one, though there were some painfully slow moments.
I did not enjoy the culprit's reveal or their motive. It didn't make much sense till reading the manga. Ouch.

The music, art, voice work, and characters all do a lot of heavy lifting here. I can see why it has a cult following.

a truly heartfelt story. it hit me real hard, and it changed the way i interact with other people and works of fiction. very good

Episode 5 was easily one of the best things I ever read, 6 was pretty fun too
But wasn't a huge fan of 7 and absolutely hated 8


Without love, it can't be seen.

Where to even begin with Umineko. It shaped me in the most formative moments of my teenage years. It's stayed with me even as I'm now in my twenties. I cried for a full hour interrupted when I finished it for the first time. Ricordando il Passato and Thanks for Being Born are two of the greatest tracks produced for any series ever. Do you have any idea how embarrassing it is to say that an anime visual novel made me the person I am today?

Umineko is about love. Umineko is about generational trauma. Umineko is about forgiveness. Umineko is about how it's okay not to forgive. Umineko is about recovery. Umineko is about gender identity. Umineko is moving on. Umineko is about happiness. Umineko is about religion. Umineko is about what we have the right to know. Umineko is about understanding.

The most important thing Umineko tells us is that no matter what, giving up is the worst suffering you can impart onto yourself. Giving up is such a hopeless thing that it doesn't even qualify as losing. It's an apathetic cease of existence. No matter what, keep living. There will be someone out there who sees you for all your ugliness and decides to love you. There is no person so miserable that they can no longer obtain happiness. All it takes is two people. As long as two people can understand each other, the once small worlds we lived in can become so vast.

There are so many things I can say about Umineko. I can talk about the exhilarating mysteries and fights, I can talk about the captivating characters, I can talk about the beautiful soundtrack, I can talk about how much its shaped me. But really it's something you have to experience for yourself. The 120 hours is well worth it.

Honestly this is greatest story ever told in fiction. Hands down. There is no reason to ever read anything after this because nothing can top it

Dispensa comentários, uma escrita formidável, ótimos personagens, narrativa impecável, absolutamente perfeito.

I dedicate this tale to my beloved witch, Beatrice.