1,050 hours on the game and casually, it's fantastic. content wise it is insane, but competitively or anything that isn't casual feels awful. ultimate's neutral is akind to two rams running into each other mindlessly and whichever ram gets hit harder is the winner. neutral has as much depth as a fucking shallow kid pool. characters like palu are rewarded for running in with a mindless move and will get 50 percent off of it. characters like snake are in the very small minority where you have to condition your opponent and actually be clever about winning neutral. the game feels terrible to play. input lag, buffering, online, sticky platforms, it makes some inputs impossible or just really difficult to do. thanks for sora though that was cool.