pretty easily the most bafflingly received 3d sonic i've played. i find it unfathomable this is the one that's so polarizing - even to the point of frequently being compared to its successor for some inane reason

sure, the slipperiness takes getting used to and there's some occasionally janky hit detection... but what else?

i suppose there's something to be said about the more impersonal and back-to-basics narrative. it's a far cry from the sheer ambition sa2 put on display just two years prior, but i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. heroes instead opts for being a straightforward, fun, gamey-ass video game

what's presented here is what most sa1/2 detractors claim to wish those games were - almost nonstop, high class speed stages. seaside hill? grand metropolis? frog forest? egg fleet? these are some of the best zones in the series - and casino park is EASILY the coolest take on that running theme without question. what, you gonna tell me you prefer casinopolis? are you stupid?

i'm not gonna deny there are stinkers in the mission count - the chaotix variant of mystic mansion is fucking abysmal, team dark's enemy rush segments are especially tedious and racing for chaos emeralds frankly feels like complete dog shit no matter who you're controlling - but these sections all amount to a footnote in contrast to what heroes does right - everything else

sick final boss as per usual too. neo metal is so fucking cool and "what i'm made of" is easily a top 5 crush 40 track

...speaking of top tier crush 40 tracks

Reviewed on Mar 20, 2024


13 Comments


1 month ago

oh also: i'm not a complete psychopath who beat this entire game in a day. i played team sonic/rose/some of dark a few years ago and came back to it to wrap up dark, chaotix and the finale off and on throughout this week

1 month ago

Yeah I was like "how the hell did he finish the entire game in a day" lol

1 month ago

Wow! I hate this one outside of the music. I guess taking your time to go through it can go a long way.

1 month ago

@brockreiher i can't really imagine beating it around the same time as when i first did team sonic/rose/half of dark would've really made much of a difference. just kinda got sidetracked and was in no rush so i was like "eh i'll just beat it when i'm inevitably craving 3d sonic again". i strongly doubt pushing thru for another few hours would've spontaneously shattered all the previous goodwill i had towards the game - especially when it ends as strongly as it does

1 month ago

I fell through the floor in the pinball level like 4 times and in the next level I think I got killed while being shot out of the cannon? My issues with the game is the glitches being worse than the adventure games ever were and the levels just being so long. Thinking of doing each one four times made me quit my replay.

1 month ago

Only problems I have with this game are the leveling system cause that one part in Mystic Mansion in Team Sonic that wants you to homing attack the enemies, but you don't 1 shot them if you are lower level, so I just couldn't get myself across the gap. And yeah, Team Dark's enemy rushes stopped me too because I died towards the end of Myustic Mansion one and just didnt do it again. I also just got filtered at the final boss (not Neo Metal).

But yeah, I think this game just has some of the best levels in this era of sonic (design and visuals) and definitely my favourite soundtrack

1 month ago

@snigglegros you don't need to kill the enemies to get across them with a homing attack. team dark's enemy rushes are obnoxious but nothing that a fixation on power/flight characters and well-timed team blasts cant solve. egg emperor is also deceptively braindead - literally just stun him with flight characters, team blast, and let your power character clean up the rest (this applies to all non-neo metal bosses. team blasts are insanely powerful and charge very quickly do not sleep on them)

1 month ago

also - i assume you mean the bit where you need to homing attack the jack o lantern guys, right? those don't die regardless
@brockreiher oof, were those glitches throughout the entire game?

1 month ago

oh, well i stand corrected on the jack o lanterns I guess. Then thats just me not being able to control the homing attack cause I I kept just missing my attacks and falling to death. Egg Emporer I would just keep getting swatted out of the air and shit. Im also a little big of a Impatient Gamer so thats can attribute to all these annoying me. I also played the PC version so idk if that is more unstable than other ports.

1 month ago

@nowitsreyntime17 I would guess so? on this replay I only got through the first three worlds with team sonic

1 month ago

did you play this on gamecube? every version is like completely different, it's really fucked up

1 month ago

@goznog yeah i ran it on dolphin