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I hate China and Korea so much. I want a third game so bad. I hate how Soul Hackers overshadows these two. Raidou Kuzunoha is such a legendary duology that deserves a third game to finally polish its ideas. Not made by Platinum, but in house at ATLUS.

For whatever naive reason I played this one first before the first one. As good as the first one imo, only done the tutorial and saw a little the main game and exploration, but I'll go in order first.

Probably my favorite PS2 era MegaTen game, the gameplay is really fun and a big improvement from the first game, I really like the characters in this game and how they expanded more on the Kuzunoha's, the story is good but I'm gonna be honest I really liked how much more crazy the first one was in comparison to this one
Devil Summoner still holds up as my favorite MegaTen series, something about these games connects really well with me and just bring me joy whenever I play them really


This review contains spoilers

Among the more frustrating sequels I've played. The first is an uneven but fascinating portrait of Taisho era Tokyo; it stumbles but continues moving, unveiling unique locales and situations at a fairly even pace. It's a bizarre game, as it should be.

This sequel follows the age old trend of sequel design: refinement and abundance at the cost of everything else. It's slow, littered with obvious and repetitive dialogue, and any sense of character the previous game had is flattened and made banal. The preexisting environments are largely unchanged, several are barely used. Much of the game is set out in a country village, which feels like it should provide some visual diversity, but it mostly amounts to muddy looking vegetation and underground tunnels.

I'm skeptical of the game's attitudes on country people as well. As in most countries with an urban core, tensions between rural and city life are a defining part of Japan's identity, and this game regularly personifies its rural denizens as superstitious, cagey, and self destructive. The city slickers seem to make the right decisions once they figure out what's being hidden from them.

A very nice improvement over the first game!
The gameplay feels infinitely better, and the story is way more compelling with great characters and themes.
It does have some padding, but still, great hidden gem!

Dahn Tsukigata is in this game. That makes it good by default

A sequel better at pretty much everything. Gone was the random encounters on cities, now you get access to one more demon in battle and the flow of battle is all around better. An example how a sequel should be, really. Most of the dialog it's pretty fun as the first one and OST is Atlus goodness. The plot is not as interesting as the first one but it's not bad either. Great flow and pacing too, the only misstep is the battle against the four riders being the way it was. I can see someone getting softlocked with it easily.

a huge improvement from the original, great aesthetic, but kinda meh

fixed my issues with the first game's mechanics, with a great fucking story to boot

"GO WHITE BOY GO" dijo Raidou, enviando a Mokoi para darle en la picha a su oponente con su bomerán

got this one on a whim when it came through a store i worked at, and it quickly became one of my favorites. i would sit and play for hours just grinding to expand the compendium. game looks great, pre rendered backgrounds reign supreme in style. honestly i think the city and town areas were more memorable than the dungeons. some tracks shine while others are pretty standard loops, but nothing that i ever found grating. story and characters are entertaining throughout. while building crazy demon comps is not entirely needed to beat this (aside from a few battles) i enjoyed messing around to see what i could build. definitely one of my highest recommended smt games


I don't know how it's possible, but this game took everything they did in the first one and threw it out the window. The combat was changed; there were some improvements, but basically demons became very useless, and they added special powers depending on the weapon, which hardly changes anything in combat. The story of the game was just horrible this time around; there were several new characters with no charisma at all, and even the characters that had charisma in the first one had much less shine in this one. The main villain of the plot is interesting at first until he becomes unbearable too. The final chapter this time also gave the game a boost, but the ending was a mess. You can perfectly understand why they never made a Raidou 3 after this.

Peak SMT. No press turn? No problem! Just shove a katana down Jack Frost's Rectum!!!

After playing this game again for the first time in two or three years I was surprised at how different my vision of this game ended up becoming by the end of it. When people talk about the "glory days" or "golden age" of Atlus games they tend to refer to the PS2 era consisting of Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2, and also the Raidou duology. Sometimes people consider persona 3 and 4 to be a part of this era but they've been remastered and reworked a few times each now so I feel like they've transcended the PS2 era since they're both still relevant and both just got a brand new physical release announced. I always felt like the more Atlus progressed into their arguably as prominent 3DS era, they lost a bit of their original magic they had previously around the DDS era. It could have been a change of visual style with Masayuki Doi making the vast majority of new character art for the mainline series, along with shigenori soejima's art style changing to something that's (I feel) less unique. Both Doi and Soejima, in my opinion, have a more consistent track record of great art compared to kaneko but that's besides the point. This game came out in 2008 for the PS2, which to me is crazy because the jump from PS2 to PS3 was pretty huge. Hard to believe this game came out in the same year as like metal gear solid 4. This game really feels like it's way older than it actually is, and re-uses so many assets from the first game it left me feeling sometimes like i wasn't even playing a sequel, more so like an FES or a Royal version of Raidou 1 which caused me to unfortunately lose interest in the story much earlier than i would've liked. This is sort of where Persona started to have a bigger influence on Shin Megami Tensei as a whole. Even looking at the box arts for these two games you can tell that the second game's art was made much more ''palatable'' for a more mainstream audience. Even throughout the story there's brief but weirdly important scenes that involve picking a hypothetical love interest which really felt like it was ripped right from something like persona 4 because of how out of place it felt (in comparison to the first raidou, and the other ps2 smt games aside from P3 and P4). The music also felt like it took a bit of a hit. Re-using most of the music from raidou 1, raidou 2 boasts a much less extensive list of original songs, made even shorter if you don't count remixes. The songs in this game sound a lot like the ones from Persona 3, and even more so, Persona 4. The same guitar tone, the same trumpets that get really annoying after a while, etc. People say that Shoji Meguro got really burned out because of the constant pressure to make new music for a new megaten/persona game like literally every year or so at this point so a lot of songs blend together after DDS (which even he claims to be his most creative work). Besides the Art and music, the game plays pretty solid for the most part since it's building off of the bones of the last game, which itself was a little too simple for my liking. Now Raidou can roll and use special movies. Ammo is now infinite which is nice, but i rarely find myself using it, even with the elemental bullet spells, which brings me to my next point. This game has a lot of mechanics that go pretty much unused because you just don't need to use them. I bet most players didn't even know that blocking, and tapping X right in front of an enemy would roll you behind them like in wind waker, but i'm pretty sure they never explain it to you in game, and if they do, you won't ever really need to use it other than to feel cool. For the ladder half of the game you'll be so good on MAG, the primary mana resource of this game, that you'll be able to spam super high-level piercing spells that hit more than once to obliterate anything. Keep in mind that in my playthrough i only ever did 2 of the optional side quests and grinded only once for a super long fusion chain late-game towards the 25 hour mark. The game is way too easy for me and I'm glad they added a hard mode in the form of King difficulty, since it's something that me and my friends really wish they would've added to DDS since it's absent exclusively in those games. The only part of the main story that I found difficult were the fiends. Some may say that they're side content but they can literally interrupt the main story of the game whenever the moon phase hits 'New' and force you into a fight with them sort of like the riders from nocturne camping outside the terminals. Fighting them requires a moderate level of strategy and good MAG management to make sure you don't waste any by missing, since the riders like to teleport a lot. In my playthrough, I was able to kill every fiend including the Raidou clone a few times, since he can respawn unlike the others that stay dead for the remainder of the chapter. This game follows the SMT trope of having your decisions make an impact on your moral alignment and by extension, the ending of the game. While the 3 main endings in the game are for the most part, pretty similar minus the death of one character changing to another dependant on the route. I ended up getting the neutral ending which is pretty cool since I usually get either law or chaos in the other games, or TDE in nocturne since it's the most fun. Overall, the gameplay loop of Raidou 2 isn't as fun as something like Nocturne with the more prominent emphasis on demon fusion and the Kalpas, or DDS and the mantras and expanding your skill tree. I maybe went through 3 or 4 party cycles in Raidou 2, and never once felt like i needed to fuse to power myself up, it was just to explore the compendium and see more of the more niche Devil Summoner demons you don't see too often in mainline. I saw some demons in this playthrough that I'd never seen before which was super cool. My one problem with the demons is that the ones that are probably the most optimal to use can be found as wild demons in the current or next major area, which makes them feel less unique, and also makes the compendium feel a bit smaller. Speaking of gameplay loop, the dungeons are probably some of the most forgettable in the series. I've played this game twice now and still couldn't recall a single name of any dungeon despite reading a guide while playing, which I must say, isn't always necessary. It also doesn't really help that the dungeons are interspersed between probably some of the driest dialogue from the driest characters introduced in a megaten game. Worse than the reasons in Nocturne. Nagi and Geirin are both that trope where characters say a certain thing over and over like how Teddie P4 always makes a bear pun, Nagi and Geirin both say "bounds of my conjecture" or "theoretically" in almost every second sentence without fail. It's not okay this time cause Tedddie P4 tbh was more of a comic relief character but i can't really feel bad for these young sheldon sounding ass characters when either one is going through it. The one character I can say that i really enjoyed watching was Narumi. He was my favourite character in 1 and probably still in 2. He's just a good guy that isn't just comic relief like a lot of people think of him as. Another big problem with the dialogue is that none of it is voice acted, which is okay i guess considering this game was probably a lower-budget title but this game is practically begging for a Nocturne HD treatment. DDS was somehow lucky enough to get okay voice acting 4 years before and considering how that game performed I'm assuming they didn't wanna risk it again, which is understandable. It's just that this game has lots of scenes where stuff is being explained to you over these ugly looking 3D models that bob up and down and express like one of 4 emotions. I know it probably sounds like i am hard core shitting on this game, but I just think that this game and the Raidou world and characters are so slept on. The whole way through this game I couldn't help but think how great this game would've been had it released on Xbox360 or PS3. Catherine and Persona 5 both had a release that generation and they did really well in sales i'm pretty sure. Granted, Catherine is like the biggest clickbait of the video game world but it's still worth mentioning. Seeing the ever-mediocre persona 5 strikers get the megaten action game of the decade release really upsets me now that I can imagine a world where Raidou or even just the SMT franchise got int instead. Raidou being able to run around a fully 3d environment instead of those 240p pre-rendered backgrounds at full 60fps with a proper skill tree and great boss fights would have easily cemented Devil Summoner as a pillar title for Atlus, but instead they had completely and utterly ruined their chance with the embarrassingly lame soul hackers 2. This game set out to create an action game out of PS2 megaten and i think when you put it that way, it definitely succeeds, since both the bad and good carried over mostly from Nocturne and DDS and even Persona 3 and 4. Raidou is probably one of the more interesting Megaten protagonists and the lore behind the Kuzunoha family is really interesting especially after having played Soul hackers and persona 2 a few years back, you can see how it all ties together. This game is definitely more polished than Raidou 1, and overall a better game that improves on most of what raidou 1 needed to fix, like having only one demon at a time, but for me, it doesn't quite hit the mark that DDS did, and I'm not remotely satisfied with the dormant status of this series/character and I'm so extremely confused at how Atlus was moving in the right direction for the most part but completely dropped the ball on this guy. If it were on 10 i'd probably give it a really solid 7, and maybe I'm biased cause I love Raidou and megaten but I generally enjoyed this game start to finish. It just doen't help that it was bogged down so hard by the previous gen's specs since if had just been given more time to break free from the mediocrity of it's predecessor and define itself as a true successor, i could easily see Raidou 2 as a 10/10 action RPG in another life.

this game was utterly painful dungeon design was shit and final boss wasn't hard just a slog to get through and I ran out of magnetite during the final phase it was hell

Atlus back in the ps2 were another Kind of beast

Everything I said about the first game is enhanced here. Combat is a lot more engaging and really fun, there's weapon types that change the way your moves work. Demons are significantly more integral to combat now that you can summon two into battle, and the music.. my god the music is blissfully beautiful, made me love the atmosphere of this game even more. I don't think it overshadows the original with all of these improvements too, there's merit in playing both. There are some flaws with the story, same with the first, in this game's case there's some padding and moments that drag a little bit but they were over before I could realistically really hate those moments. Great game overall.

phenomenal story and characters with a lot of fun demon interactions. i like how you can use them to help you investigate :) so silly.
combat sucks though but that's probably something to do with my preference. i don't like the mix of hack & slash with turn based

Much better than the first game even though I enjoyed that one too, the characters are all memorable and interesting, the story is intriguing and of course the music really unique and charming. Combat is also much better in this game, almost a night and day difference.

Creo que la mejor manera de definir este videojuego en comparación a su primera parte es: "mejor". Tiene mejor historia, mejor jugabilidad, mejor desplazamiento, mejor combate, mejor temática, mejor música, mejor duración y, en especial, es extremadamente mejor que la primera parte. Es fácil jugarlo y es fácil divertirse con el. La dificultad, es sustancialmente superior a la primera entrega, pero sigue sin ser especialmente difícil en casi ningun aspecto y, similar a la primera parte, no persivo eso necesariamente como un problema. La conclusión es bastante agradable y más que digna de tal sobresaliente videojuego. Este definitivamente es un videojuego que merece ser jugado y al menos hasta ahora, mi Shin Megami Tensei favorito (sin contar Persona).


raidou but like, actually good

Devil Summoner 2 has much better gameplay and more interesting story than the first game.

First of all, we have a roll mechanic -first game doesn't have it- and smooth animations in the game so the fights are more fun, demon compendium is diverse so the fusion system is impressive as always, i really love fusion system in the atlus games the bosses are forgettable and repetitive, i hate fighting same bosses, they don't offer a challange, they are just waste of time, Rate of random encounter is better, there is no random encounters in places like capital so investigations are more comfortable in these places,

to fusion special demons, you need to complete some sidequests

Soundtrack is great especially Battle Theme, it's my favorite.

Descubrí que si en una bifurcación de camino en la que llamar a Tarrasque lo haces desde la parte más cercana del camino adyacente lo invocas en tierra y puedes navegar por cualquier zona del mapa que no sea agua

This game was a huge insult to the first game.
They took everything from the first game and made it worse in every way possible.

The most frustrating part is what they did to the characters and the plot. The plot was terrible.
It doesn't even have a clear antagonist until the last
couple chapters. The characters were absolutely butchered, for example Tae, who has a new appearance/model, new personality, and even calls herself a different name for... some reason?

Tae was a pretty decent character in the first game, whereas here she's just another "hehe who is your favourite girl hehe" trope. They even added a hotspring scene where she's naked. (nothing visible at least) That scene takes place during a random part at the end where she randomly starts complaining about how women are treated (which she never complained about outside of this one scene by the way) before and after that scene starts, which made me feel like they were making women's rights into a joke.
Gouto was butchered as well, just showing up to say "Oh hi I'll add this to your notebook" at the end of every cutscene.

Overall the gameplay is just a downgrade, story was boring to the point where I just skipped dialogue since everything was very predictable, or just recapping events that have already happened.

This review is a massive rant with no structure, so I'll complain about another scene in the game.
At one point, there's a massive plot dump, but the game doesn't respect your intelligence and asks you if you need to rehear what was said every 5 messages. It was actually insane, and very annoying.

Anyways, I'll end this here, I've played bad megaten games and hated them before, but none have disappointed me until now.