I've always wanted to soak my feet into jrpgs. I've played a nice handful of RPG's, but they were always games that I was drawn to for their non-RPG mechanics or alternative design conventions. Y'know, the stuff like Kingdom Hearts, Mega Man Battle Network and Star Force, Paper Mario, Undertale and Deltarune, TWEWY - the kinds of RPG's that twitter minors always include in their 'YOU'RE one of the good ones' posts. The closest to classical, traditional RPG's I ever got into were the Shining Force series and Phantasy Star IV - both of which I only got into because of my Genesis ADHD. But hey, I loved both! Even besides the narrative and aesthetic strengths of each, I was super into the simple loop of building up your squad, then going aggro on a bunch of badass monsters. And I learned from my experiences with both that surprisingly, I kinda like grinding and a lot of the other little things that people associate negatively with the genre.

So why didn't I start getting into 'the classics' of RPG's 'til now? Cause like the entire rest of my generation, I started with all of Square's big-name games and bounced off of them HAAAAAAAAAAARD. Chrono Trigger had me hooked in the first half, but left me drained by the second half when its boss design and open-endedness went in a direction that put me off immediately. I played part of FF9 and was in love, but got slowly worn out from its sluggish, 20FPS combat. I played Super Mario RPG on Wii VC cause it had Mario in it, and while I like a lot of the things it DOES, its combat was always just a less-refined Paper Mario to me, and the rough edges, dirty color palette and bad platforming pushed me off too. The only classic Square game that I was really vibing with was FF7, which I liked for the 10-15 hours of it I played! But one thing led to another, my life got busy, I got stuck somewhere, gave it up, and never looked back. I could understand the majesty and hype behind all of these games that made them genre-defining classics, but I could never get 'deep' into them. They didn't have that basic, snappy feel that made me get saturated in Shining and Phantasy Star.

Honestly, even though JRPG haters are unreasonable bitches, I wouldn't really blame them for saying stuff like Paper Mario and Persona 'got it right' when the whole internet screams to start with the big Squaresoft names - which again, aren't bad, but understandably don't appeal to everyone. Active Time Battles fucking suck dude, I get why it's a fresh change of pace for people who are FF junkies but goddamn this shit is rancid.

So instead of picking up and dropping more FF, I pivoted the other way and tried Dragon Quest for the time being. And Dragon Quest kicks ass! The leveling feels great! The feeling of branching out and surviving through each patch of the kingdom while scraping to get back to an inn or the castle before expiring is handled extremely well! And when you start getting magic that lets you minimize the busywork of items, you feel awesome! Toriyama, for as much of an asshole as he is, breathed a ton of life into the monster designs and lets them speak to the world in a way the microscopic overworld sprites couldn't. I really appreciate how the first enemies you fight are wildlife like roaming bugs and shit, but as you progress, you take on more and more of Dragonlord's direct henchmen - they're not just random encounters, these dudes are on patrol and you got on their TURF. When you finally grind up to beat the Green Dragon, and then you get to the final dungeon and TWO more variants of it appear as COMMON ENEMIES?? That's top tier kino.

Anyway this game's great, all of its design choices are laser-focused around that thrill of adventuring in a lived-in world and slowly building yourself up. Antiquated in some spots, but it gets the gameplay loop down pat and must've been even crazier back then. This was the 'hit buttons' JRPG thrill I needed to get my feet warm into the genre and rinse the taste of ATB out of my mouth.

Mobile/Switch version is ugly as shit tho, fuckin' Minecraft mod vibes.

Reviewed on Jan 05, 2022


12 Comments


2 years ago

oh dude like scott the woz

2 years ago

ladies and gentlemen

the first completely reasonable Not a JRPG guy

2 years ago

I get the sense you'll like the series. It's a lot of what you like here and more and more but with new themes of ideas, going the opposite way of ff

2 years ago

Themes and ideas*

2 years ago

Nah jrpgs rock I think I just hate final fantasy

2 years ago

There's a lot of non-Square gems out there to check out. I'm fine with Square RPGs in general, but I feel you with certain ones just not getting there (FF9 and Chrono Trigger never really did it for me, either). If you want to take a dip into some other non-Square ones that really stack up (and aren't rudely punishing like Nocturne, regardless of how much I could rave about that game), maybe check out the first Wild Arms, Tales of Vesperia (or Berseria), Skies of Arcadia Legends, or something from the Suikoden series (most people like 2, but my favorite is 3). If you like keeping your romps through JRPG land short like DQ1 is, maybe just play DQ2, since it's longer than DQ1 (not vastly, though), but it's way shorter than DQ3.
This is actually one of the most based posts on this site wtf, and yeah if you like DQ1 you'll probably love the rest of the franchise
(sorry for double posting but I just thought about this for a bit and thought I'd add) also since you seem to really like the vibe of dungeoncrawlers, I'd reccomend trying some games like Wizardry, they have that whole feel of slowly progressing your party.
Newer games of it's type would be Etrian Odyssey and Labyrinth of Refrain (a bit hard to suggest these ones if you're not into anime art tho), I could easily reccomend the Dark Spire for DS though, it's a sort of modernish take on that old style and might be something you're interested in, I never finished it but I quite loved the 10 hours I played.

2 years ago

SMT, Wild Arms, Skies of Arcadia and the rest of DQ are on my rpg hitlist. I bought vesperia but haven't started it yet lmao

2 years ago

Awww feels bad you didn't like Squaresoft's 90s output since they're my fav games ever and I love how ATB makes AGI actually matter (the key was def realizing magic and item presses allowed for mental breaks) but I can't be too upset about a Shining Force or Phantasy Star truther. Phantasy Star 1 is "just" a dungeon crawler as well but tbh it's amazing how much the story to an 80s JRPG had to it
Phantasy Star 1 is just the right amount of cryptic to make you feel big brain as fuck when you figure out what to do in most scenarios. It's not like early CRPG cryptic but it requires a lot of note taking and putting together all the pieces, feels so damn satisfying though haha. Definetly a great game and probably the best console RPG at it's time (considering it's competition was FF1 and Dragon Quest II, which while great games I don't think hit as much)

2 years ago

I dare say other than Wizardry I it's the best 8-bit RPG of all time, especially the fan translation