Raven Software is a good developer, id Software is a good developer. Quake is a good franchise, id Tech 4 is a good engine. Quake 4 is anything but good, painfully average military shooter with glimpses at being a sequel to Quake II but feeling like something else entirely. I'm one of those who likes Doom 3 and Quake 4 in some ways feels like it was trying to remake Quake II in the similar vein Doom 3 was a horror redo of Doom. Quake 4 could have been interesting if it went more into horror instead of chasing the trends of much more interesting shooters at the time. At least the multiplayer somewhat resembles Quake.