Recommended to me a million times from different directions, I had to try at some point. After a grueling installing process of mods through viva new vegas, it was finally time. I did not play with any survival mechanics, as I've never enjoyed those. The guns feel nice, but combat is pretty boring. The quests and conversations are well written, the world/setting is really cool. The gameplay just never really got there for me. Perks don't change quite enough, and with auto-inject stim paks there's not much danger.
Honest Hearts would get an 8/10, great area. Old World Blues a 7.5/10 mostly for the silliness/humor while still providing background into the world. Lonesome road is quite boring, 5/10. Dead money has great companions but terrible gameplay 4/10.
Honest Hearts would get an 8/10, great area. Old World Blues a 7.5/10 mostly for the silliness/humor while still providing background into the world. Lonesome road is quite boring, 5/10. Dead money has great companions but terrible gameplay 4/10.
Mid, honestly.
10/10
10/10
One of the best RPG ever made
Absolutely incredible world
Too bad it is full of bug and needs modding to be playable
Absolutely incredible world
Too bad it is full of bug and needs modding to be playable
buggy mess. game saves kept getting corrupted and i no longer have the patience to deal with it
my luck with beloved RPGs working properly is Not Good
my luck with beloved RPGs working properly is Not Good
An amazing experience, that inspires nostalgia, despite only playing it around a year ago. The DLC's (the ones I've played) are also great. Everyone needs to play this. New Vegas is fucking awesome.
I think this game's development is one of the most impressive feats in the history of the medium. The whole thing was made in 18 months and it turned out as amazing as it is. The game is buggy as shit but I'm glad they prioritized the writing over everything else.
I have a hard time articulating why this game is so great honestly. You just need to experience the world and characters for yourself.
One of the best games ever made.
I have a hard time articulating why this game is so great honestly. You just need to experience the world and characters for yourself.
One of the best games ever made.
genuinamente el mejor y peor juego de fallout
I got this game for free from Epic Games and I have to say it was one of the best things that ever happened to me as a gamer. I've been a fan of the franchise since 2017/2018, I played and replayed 3 about 10 times (Or even more), and I already knew about New Vegas, I wanted to play it since I got sick of playing 3 at the time, but I didn't have any money or where to play it, until take my mother's notebook and get the game for free. I played for hours and hours, I'm not even sure how much time I spent playing, but I only actually reached the end 3 times and I beat the Old World Blues and Honest Hearts DLCs twice, in addition to beating Dead Money as well. About the game itself, it's hard to say how much I loved playing and exploring the Mojave Desert, even though it still has problems from its predecessor, such as graphical and gameplay problems (Problems with saving, reputation, crashes, etc...), FNV is deservedly the best game in the entire franchise, although I prefer the gameplay and motor graphics of 4 and still think that the story of 1 and 2 are the best, New Vegas is the closest we will have to a balance between fun gameplay and a well constructed story.
The world reacts to the player's actions and the player also reacts to the world's actions, your choices really have weight and affect not only the story but your gameplay and the way they treat you in the game, it is rare to see a game where the developers ( Even though with such a short deadline they put so much care into the project they were building, the characters are very charismatic, they have captivating stories and truly convincing and ambiguous motivations, nothing is black and white, but rather gray. Each action you take has a different impact on the world, a decision you make can be praised by one character but can be a death sentence for another, apart from the development of characters, especially companions. The level of detail and concern they had in giving a different past, developments and endings to each companion in the game is bizarre, each one being based on the way the player influenced their actions during the game, maintaining the essence of their personalities and the at the same time giving value to the Courier's shares. The gameplay, on the other hand, is a bit slow, if you're not very fresh and play mostly with firearms or energy weapons, the gameplay will be less boring, but depending on your character's build, the game can be very easy, even in Hardcore mode. , which is a bit disappointing, because at a certain point in the game you are practically immortal and you don't even need your companions (Boone alone crushes about 50% of almost all enemies in the game with one shot, there were times when I only gained xp out of nowhere and when I looked back I only saw him putting the gun away). Besides, despite being better than 3, the combat is still not very immersive or realistic, in this I recognize that its successor hit the nail on the head in terms of physics and "realism", besides the fact that the game doesn't use all of its mechanics, which is also Depressingly, I went through the whole game without needing to use the survival skill or other mechanics simply because the game doesn't encourage them in any way, you can just play by leveling up speech, guns, lockpick and science and that's it, you don't need almost anything else in the game , you can try other mechanics but there is a lack of encouragement and practical ways to use them. Finally, my last point is that I believe there was a little lack of clarity in certain missions in the game along with the map, I got lost several times in the gameplay due to the inaccuracy of the pip-boy in instructing me to navigate not only in the open world but also in closed places , apart from the fact that in some missions (Like the one with the NCR radio tower spy), there is no certain clarity in the objectives of the mission, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so long, even some missions in the game could be longer faster if the route the player needs to take was clearer (Not only in the pip-boy but in the game's mute) and more practical too, or maybe I'm just slow and didn't pay attention properly perhaps.
Well, besides this game is worthy of having the name Fallout in the title, even with its problems the story is good and has fun gameplay, I really hope that one day they will look more fondly at this game and give it its due recognition, a remake in graphics and gameplay (And some more updates for newer consoles and PCs) would be more than welcome. In my humble opinion, it is not only the best game in the Fallout franchise, but also one of the most memorable games of my life.
The world reacts to the player's actions and the player also reacts to the world's actions, your choices really have weight and affect not only the story but your gameplay and the way they treat you in the game, it is rare to see a game where the developers ( Even though with such a short deadline they put so much care into the project they were building, the characters are very charismatic, they have captivating stories and truly convincing and ambiguous motivations, nothing is black and white, but rather gray. Each action you take has a different impact on the world, a decision you make can be praised by one character but can be a death sentence for another, apart from the development of characters, especially companions. The level of detail and concern they had in giving a different past, developments and endings to each companion in the game is bizarre, each one being based on the way the player influenced their actions during the game, maintaining the essence of their personalities and the at the same time giving value to the Courier's shares. The gameplay, on the other hand, is a bit slow, if you're not very fresh and play mostly with firearms or energy weapons, the gameplay will be less boring, but depending on your character's build, the game can be very easy, even in Hardcore mode. , which is a bit disappointing, because at a certain point in the game you are practically immortal and you don't even need your companions (Boone alone crushes about 50% of almost all enemies in the game with one shot, there were times when I only gained xp out of nowhere and when I looked back I only saw him putting the gun away). Besides, despite being better than 3, the combat is still not very immersive or realistic, in this I recognize that its successor hit the nail on the head in terms of physics and "realism", besides the fact that the game doesn't use all of its mechanics, which is also Depressingly, I went through the whole game without needing to use the survival skill or other mechanics simply because the game doesn't encourage them in any way, you can just play by leveling up speech, guns, lockpick and science and that's it, you don't need almost anything else in the game , you can try other mechanics but there is a lack of encouragement and practical ways to use them. Finally, my last point is that I believe there was a little lack of clarity in certain missions in the game along with the map, I got lost several times in the gameplay due to the inaccuracy of the pip-boy in instructing me to navigate not only in the open world but also in closed places , apart from the fact that in some missions (Like the one with the NCR radio tower spy), there is no certain clarity in the objectives of the mission, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so long, even some missions in the game could be longer faster if the route the player needs to take was clearer (Not only in the pip-boy but in the game's mute) and more practical too, or maybe I'm just slow and didn't pay attention properly perhaps.
Well, besides this game is worthy of having the name Fallout in the title, even with its problems the story is good and has fun gameplay, I really hope that one day they will look more fondly at this game and give it its due recognition, a remake in graphics and gameplay (And some more updates for newer consoles and PCs) would be more than welcome. In my humble opinion, it is not only the best game in the Fallout franchise, but also one of the most memorable games of my life.
Jogo foda, história foda, arma foda, personagens foda, em resumo, tudo foda!
I would fucking die for Cassidy and/or Veronica, especially Veronica. This dumb naive lesbian loves other dumb naive lesbians.
Man merkt dem Spiel das Alter an.
Die Ladezeiten sind lang, die Welt ist leer im Vergleich zu anderen Teilen der Falloutreihe.
Man trifft selten auf Gegner und noch seltener auf Orte, in denen mehr Dinge zu finden sind als 2 Klumpen Altmetall.
Eine Menge Bugs sind natürlich auch mit dabei.
Es fühlt sich weniger belohnend an, als Fallout 3 und 4.
Am Ende ist es aber immer noch ein solides, handgemachtes Open World Action RPG.
Die Ladezeiten sind lang, die Welt ist leer im Vergleich zu anderen Teilen der Falloutreihe.
Man trifft selten auf Gegner und noch seltener auf Orte, in denen mehr Dinge zu finden sind als 2 Klumpen Altmetall.
Eine Menge Bugs sind natürlich auch mit dabei.
Es fühlt sich weniger belohnend an, als Fallout 3 und 4.
Am Ende ist es aber immer noch ein solides, handgemachtes Open World Action RPG.
simply the greatest rpg of all time, so much freedom that is lacking in most modern rpgs
De fato, meu jogo favorito, de tempos em tempos volto para jogar ele e experimentar de diferentes formas de jogar, recomendo para aqueles que gostam de RPG, esse foi titulo que mais joguei de toda a franquia, único ponto fraco é que é muito datado, mas fora isso, com alguns ajustes dá para jogar tranquilo.
Fallout New Vegas es mi Fallout favorito.
Fallout New Vegas es el que juego con mejor inmersión de toda la saga (la saga 3D al menos), con una capacidad para tomar cualquier decisión, una ambientación increíble, un lore y personajes super buenos y bien desarrollados y una historia brutal.
La jugabilidad sigue siendo algo tosca ya que es prácticamente lo mismo que Fallout 3 (en temas jugables) con lo que sigue estando algo limitado, pero con la grandísima variedad de opciones para personalizar el personaje y mejorarle se puede cubrir bastante.
Las misiones tanto secundarias como principales, tienen todas muy buen nivel, no me he encontrado ni una sola que me haya aburrido, gracias a su estética tan oscura y tétrica que tiene todo en este titulo.
La variedad de armas/compañeros/lugares/armaduras y enemigos hace que te cueste encontrar repetidos alguno de estos, aparte de tener un diseño brutal y un desarrollo en el caso de los compañeros y enemigos buenísimo.
Lo único malo que podría destacar seria su pequeño mapa en comparación a los actuales, no es algo justo, pero a día de hoy si que se hace algo pequeño o vacío en algunos sitios (es un desierto, si, pero se nota demasiado vacío la gran parte del tiempo), aparte de un final que dependiendo de cual hagas puede ser mejor o peor, pero que no te dejen continuar después del final es un golpe durísimo, siendo aparte algo rápido y un poco agridulce.
SPOILER
La historia es una locura, somos un mensajero que tiene que entregar una ficha de platino en el Strip de New vegas, en mitad de la entrega Benny nos retiene y nos da dos tiros en la cabeza para quitarse problema, pero por milagro nos salva Víctor, un securitrón a cargo del Sr. House, lider de New Vegas, a partir de aqui tendremos libertad para hacer lo que queramos, pero a niveles muy locos, podremos matar a quien nos de la gana sin restricciones e ir y seguir el ritmo que nos de la gana, con una variedad en el dialogo asombrosa la cual nos dejara hacer/decir lo que nos de la gana, el desarrollo ira según con quien nos aliemos pero el objetivo final será una batalla por la presa Hoover en la mayoría de casos, al final del juego tendremos una "cinemática" en la que veremos lo que pasara en el futuro de New Vegas en consecuencia de lo que hayamos hecho durante nuestra partida.
FIN SPOILER
Los DLCs en esta ocasión no los he jugado porque he acabado bastante quemado al tener un final tan rápido y sin la posibilidad de avanzar a partir de ese punto, cosa que no recordaba sinceramente, pero ya me los volveré a pasar en un futuro 100%.
En resumen, Fallout New Vegas es el juego de la saga 3D, con mejor lore, mayor importancia en el universo y la hora de jugar el mas libre y divertido, gracias a esa libertad que nos dan, de toda la saga, al menos para mi, los DLCs son una locura al menos como los recuerdo, pero esto ultimo no puedo decirlo con certeza.
Fallout New Vegas es el que juego con mejor inmersión de toda la saga (la saga 3D al menos), con una capacidad para tomar cualquier decisión, una ambientación increíble, un lore y personajes super buenos y bien desarrollados y una historia brutal.
La jugabilidad sigue siendo algo tosca ya que es prácticamente lo mismo que Fallout 3 (en temas jugables) con lo que sigue estando algo limitado, pero con la grandísima variedad de opciones para personalizar el personaje y mejorarle se puede cubrir bastante.
Las misiones tanto secundarias como principales, tienen todas muy buen nivel, no me he encontrado ni una sola que me haya aburrido, gracias a su estética tan oscura y tétrica que tiene todo en este titulo.
La variedad de armas/compañeros/lugares/armaduras y enemigos hace que te cueste encontrar repetidos alguno de estos, aparte de tener un diseño brutal y un desarrollo en el caso de los compañeros y enemigos buenísimo.
Lo único malo que podría destacar seria su pequeño mapa en comparación a los actuales, no es algo justo, pero a día de hoy si que se hace algo pequeño o vacío en algunos sitios (es un desierto, si, pero se nota demasiado vacío la gran parte del tiempo), aparte de un final que dependiendo de cual hagas puede ser mejor o peor, pero que no te dejen continuar después del final es un golpe durísimo, siendo aparte algo rápido y un poco agridulce.
SPOILER
La historia es una locura, somos un mensajero que tiene que entregar una ficha de platino en el Strip de New vegas, en mitad de la entrega Benny nos retiene y nos da dos tiros en la cabeza para quitarse problema, pero por milagro nos salva Víctor, un securitrón a cargo del Sr. House, lider de New Vegas, a partir de aqui tendremos libertad para hacer lo que queramos, pero a niveles muy locos, podremos matar a quien nos de la gana sin restricciones e ir y seguir el ritmo que nos de la gana, con una variedad en el dialogo asombrosa la cual nos dejara hacer/decir lo que nos de la gana, el desarrollo ira según con quien nos aliemos pero el objetivo final será una batalla por la presa Hoover en la mayoría de casos, al final del juego tendremos una "cinemática" en la que veremos lo que pasara en el futuro de New Vegas en consecuencia de lo que hayamos hecho durante nuestra partida.
FIN SPOILER
Los DLCs en esta ocasión no los he jugado porque he acabado bastante quemado al tener un final tan rápido y sin la posibilidad de avanzar a partir de ese punto, cosa que no recordaba sinceramente, pero ya me los volveré a pasar en un futuro 100%.
En resumen, Fallout New Vegas es el juego de la saga 3D, con mejor lore, mayor importancia en el universo y la hora de jugar el mas libre y divertido, gracias a esa libertad que nos dan, de toda la saga, al menos para mi, los DLCs son una locura al menos como los recuerdo, pero esto ultimo no puedo decirlo con certeza.
This game is truly a gem of its time. It has a ton of bugs that sometimes enhance the experience but can also cause it to become a massive mess. But, despite all this, the game persists in my mind to be one of my favorite fallout experiences out there. Seeing the Mojave while trying to track down the man who attempted to kill you and blasting old country music hits so different that it's really hard to describe. Take all of those experiences and then add the possibility of mods, you got yourself a good amount of content for a long time. Would definitely recommend the game.
obviously new vegas is a legendary game, i'm gonna log my thoughts on the dlc here
Old World Blues: I loved this when i was younger, nowadays I think its a fine DLC that kinda loves the smell of its own farts too much
Honest Hearts: Pretty solid, I enjoy Joshua grahams character and the story overall, I remember it being pretty short though.
Lonesome Road: Ulysses is the most annoying fucking character i've ever heard in my life. The exploration also sucked.
Dead Money: Younger me hated this, but nowadays its by far my favorite new vegas DLC. Great gameplay, incredible characters and a fun storyline. Probably the best fallout DLC, at least that i've played.
Old World Blues: I loved this when i was younger, nowadays I think its a fine DLC that kinda loves the smell of its own farts too much
Honest Hearts: Pretty solid, I enjoy Joshua grahams character and the story overall, I remember it being pretty short though.
Lonesome Road: Ulysses is the most annoying fucking character i've ever heard in my life. The exploration also sucked.
Dead Money: Younger me hated this, but nowadays its by far my favorite new vegas DLC. Great gameplay, incredible characters and a fun storyline. Probably the best fallout DLC, at least that i've played.
🫵🏻Benny
Easily one of the best games that i played in my life, sure it have a lot of issues in gameplay, specially graphical, progress and save bugs (Once i lost all my karma with the all of the groups). But i had such fun playing and getting involved with the story that i can,t say that i dont love this game. I really want that someday (Which is impossible cuz Bethesda is one of the worst companys of videogames) make a remaster of this game... Anyway higly recomend playing this instead of Fallout 4 or other games of the Fallout franchise. It has the perfect balance between gameplay and story, as well as good characters and a progression system and real decisions where you really make decisions that will change the world around you, it's simply incredible to see how certain things react to your actions, like the factions for example. Anyway a solid 9/10 (Obs: Playing again)
Uma joia bruta cravada no deserto radioativo
This game is extremely buggy on PC (and assumable on consoles too) but it's so rich. I love every second of roaming, exploring, conversing. All the elements and characters make for a very immersive experience and I can't get enough. There's been so many characters that either warm my heart or exist in a very meaningful way in my playthrough. For example, I really like Cass' bluntness and grip to reality, she's a very interesting character. One of many. The world of New Vegas is very intriguing, yet dull & dead. Sometimes I found moments where I was just wandering through flattened, dusty terrain but other times it's these lively towns & outposts. The dead & dusty areas didn't hamper on my experience but I could see someone becoming irritated with it. Overall, an amazing role-playing game.
Foi o primeiro Fallout que realmente JOGUEI, e foi muito bom. O jogo é bem nos moldes dos jogos da Bethesda, o que eu gosto, onde você vai fazer as secundárias que às vezes são mais legais que a história principal. Possuindo uma gunplay muito boa e o uso do sistema VATS, o jogo é muito divertido de se jogar. O sistema de reputação também é algo que faz o jogo ser diferente, onde você não pode agradar todo mundo e precisa escolher com cautela seus aliados. Porém possui problemas que são muito significativos para ser um jogo perfeito
História
Bem legal, fiz muitas sidequests e o universo é muito bem construído. A história é melhor que a do Skyrim (o único da Bethesda que joguei) por exemplo, dando muito mais escolhas para você fazer, que REALMENTE mudam como o jogo é. A conclusão dela é boa e adorei o epílogo que aparece após você terminar o jogo, onde mostra o que aconteceu com cada pessoa/facção que você ajudou, mostrando que você REALMENTE mudou algo na vida daquelas pessoas.
Achei que faltou um pouco mais na questão social, pois você cria diversos laços, mas aquilo não avança; se você conseguisse ter um romance com certos personagens seria incrível para você sentir aquele personagem mais real.
Senti também que faltava alguma coisa ao completar algumas missões, alguma progressão ou mudança de alguma cidade, as quests pareciam que terminavam no meio.
Gameplay
O jogo é bem divertido. Porém não envelheceu tão bem, tendo diversos problemas que hoje em dia foram resolvidos, principalmente o tracking de missões. Além disso, eu precisei baixar alguns mods para o jogo ficar mais confortável de jogar, pois as mecânicas usadas na época envelheceram extremamente mal. A gunplay é divertida e a construção de build é onde o jogo brilha, onde eu me sentia jogando um RPG de mesa, onde você precisa colocar ponto por ponto, e o que você escolhe te ajuda muito em alguns casos. A exploração do mapa é legal e o jogo no começo é bem difícil.
Trilha Sonora
Meu Deus, a trilha sonora desse jogo é fenomenal. Usar a rádio para escutar as músicas deixa elas um pouco mais especiais e te deixam mais imersos no universo do jogo.
Pontos positivos e negativos
+Trilha sonora fenomenal
+Historia boa
+Boas sidequests
+Gunplay muito divertida
+Sistema VATS
+Muito legal mostrar a conclusão de tudo após o final do jogo
-Precisa de mods para ser jogável no pc hoje em dia
-Não envelheceu muito bem
-Algumas quests pareciam incompletas
Conclusão
Fallout New Vegas é ótimo. Possuindo uma história bem escrita, trilha sonora fenomenal, boas sidequests e gunplay divertida, o jogo chega a ser quase perfeito, mas não tenho como negar que parecia que precisava de mais conteúdo em algumas sidequests e que o jogo envelheceu bem mal, necessitando de diversos mods para EU me sentir confortável jogando, além de precisar baixar um para conseguir abrir o jogo em Windows mais novos. Nota 8/10.
História
Bem legal, fiz muitas sidequests e o universo é muito bem construído. A história é melhor que a do Skyrim (o único da Bethesda que joguei) por exemplo, dando muito mais escolhas para você fazer, que REALMENTE mudam como o jogo é. A conclusão dela é boa e adorei o epílogo que aparece após você terminar o jogo, onde mostra o que aconteceu com cada pessoa/facção que você ajudou, mostrando que você REALMENTE mudou algo na vida daquelas pessoas.
Achei que faltou um pouco mais na questão social, pois você cria diversos laços, mas aquilo não avança; se você conseguisse ter um romance com certos personagens seria incrível para você sentir aquele personagem mais real.
Senti também que faltava alguma coisa ao completar algumas missões, alguma progressão ou mudança de alguma cidade, as quests pareciam que terminavam no meio.
Gameplay
O jogo é bem divertido. Porém não envelheceu tão bem, tendo diversos problemas que hoje em dia foram resolvidos, principalmente o tracking de missões. Além disso, eu precisei baixar alguns mods para o jogo ficar mais confortável de jogar, pois as mecânicas usadas na época envelheceram extremamente mal. A gunplay é divertida e a construção de build é onde o jogo brilha, onde eu me sentia jogando um RPG de mesa, onde você precisa colocar ponto por ponto, e o que você escolhe te ajuda muito em alguns casos. A exploração do mapa é legal e o jogo no começo é bem difícil.
Trilha Sonora
Meu Deus, a trilha sonora desse jogo é fenomenal. Usar a rádio para escutar as músicas deixa elas um pouco mais especiais e te deixam mais imersos no universo do jogo.
Pontos positivos e negativos
+Trilha sonora fenomenal
+Historia boa
+Boas sidequests
+Gunplay muito divertida
+Sistema VATS
+Muito legal mostrar a conclusão de tudo após o final do jogo
-Precisa de mods para ser jogável no pc hoje em dia
-Não envelheceu muito bem
-Algumas quests pareciam incompletas
Conclusão
Fallout New Vegas é ótimo. Possuindo uma história bem escrita, trilha sonora fenomenal, boas sidequests e gunplay divertida, o jogo chega a ser quase perfeito, mas não tenho como negar que parecia que precisava de mais conteúdo em algumas sidequests e que o jogo envelheceu bem mal, necessitando de diversos mods para EU me sentir confortável jogando, além de precisar baixar um para conseguir abrir o jogo em Windows mais novos. Nota 8/10.
Had the itch after the show. Also had a bitch of a time playing this to my standards. Had the free epic games store version, and uninstalled due to it not supporting mods. Re bout it on Steam for like ten bucks, and downloaded a fuck ton of mods. After like two days of fiddling I got it running pretty well with the mods I wanted, and it was a pretty fun time. First few quests were interesting but I hit the point where there's so many choices I'm kind of not sure which path to go. I'm sort of exploring all the options before I make the decision, but it's interesting to not finish all of the sidequests in order to have a more authentic roleplaying experience. Still has all the Bethesda problems I'm getting sick of though. Might finish but probably not. Also pissed I learned about the better mod set up that requires Fallout 3 GOTY edition, but I ain't rebuying these games to get the deal.
When you don't have an annoying NV only fanboy in your ear you can enjoy this game almost as much as you would Fallout 3, despite the bugs, the story inconsistencies, the extreme story railroading that makes exploration worthless and so on.
Finished the NCR ending. Great as always and now I need to do the other endings.
HOLY FUCK THIS GAME RULES.
too early in to give a proper review but i can't wait to keep playing.
too early in to give a proper review but i can't wait to keep playing.
One of the greatest RPGs of all time. the only problem i think New Vegas actually has are the bugs. Unlike most gamers, the bugs or performance of a game has no impact on my feelings towards it. New Vegas has an incredible story, fun cowboy atmosphere, and wonderfully zany writing on par with the greats. Some people don't like the combat and i guess i understand but something about 3D Fallout combat resonates with me in a particular way. If you like Bethesda's open world RPGs, give New Vegas a try. It contains everything i like from those games plus so much more!
fiquei meio frustrado com o final por conta de hurr não tive luck suficiente pra farmar dinheiro pra arma que eu queria mas fora isso jogasso
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you've heard of mr. House, now how about mr. studio-apartment-that-costs-20x-what-it-used-to!
it's peak