Se não fosse tão difícil sobreviver por 3 segundos sem tomar uma bala e morrer, seria um 5 facinho. Muito envolvente e o Noir que o Sam Lake roteirizou ficou um pitel.
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Great experience. Not so good game.
The shooting is good, but the level design is boring. Especially the horrendous nightmare levels and the attrocious elevator part in the last mission. The bullet time mechanics are revolutionary and work like a charm. However, Max Payne feels like a tech demo. Never really reaching it's full potential until the third. Also, the story is too noir edgy for it's own good. This game has alot of potential, but it's more style over substance.
Honestly still holds up. The writing is fantastic, gunplay great, and level design killer. It's age is genuinely the only thing holding it back at this point. It's difficult to run without patches and the graphics, while a huge part of the game charm, are still very much showing how old they are. It's a difficult game, but I didn't mind that, just make sure to quick save after every cutscene, otherwise you WILL be watching them again.
It’s good, the horror aspect is a nice touch, the 2000s aesthetic is in full force. Kinda hate how you can’t shoot on the ground. But i enjoyed my time playing this one.
First played this 5 years ago and "loved the style :D" but hated moving/shooting/taking painkillers/any other thing you do while actually controlling Max Payne. I'm genuinely kinda embarrassed this was my take because it turns out I was just playing it entirely wrong? There were moments in this newest play-through where I winced a little bit after remembering how I dealt with combat encounters coming back to them. Felt like I was doing parallel play with my 19 year old self and screaming at her for getting frustrated with scenarios I was enjoying. "Yeah no wonder you hated the gunplay you were barely using its central mechanic!! Stop trying to duck behind cover!" "Remember when you forgot you had a sniper rifle for that section in the Aesir building where you're being shot with grenade launchers from unreachable playforms? And you thought it was "broken" because you couldn't clear it easily with a Desert Eagle?" Just a constant parade of "Jesus Christ what were you doing".
Maybe I shouldn't be quite as harsh to 2019 me but I do think this game clicks a lot more once you accept that it's very difficult and requires you to use all the tools at your disposal. Individual rooms are little gunplay puzzles that you need to maybe die to once or twice before using bullet time to clear effectively. Thinking bullet time was "style over substance" or w/e just meant I wasn't really playing Max Payne at all. To be fair I was originally playing this out of obligation a guy who thought I would be hotter if I also liked Remedy games so it's not surprising I just wanted the whole game to be over.
I think I also just wasn't into it enough to appreciate how genuinely fun a lot of the storytelling is- started playing Max Payne 2 at the time of writing this and I like the pacing and cut-scene direction in it even more but here you can see a lot of that same style even as it seems they have to stretch their budget way thinner. The graphic novel sections are wonderful and I love seeing all the photo-sourced panels- you get the impression the devs were having a blast, they're leaning into the camp of it all. Still, other sections manage to be much darker in a way that feels effective. Any section set in Max's house or a nightmare variation of it is genuinely uncomfortable; the bit in the one nightmare section where almost all the walls in the house are replaced with the disgustingly cheerful wallpaper from the baby's room and rock-a-bye baby is echoing through the house got me pretty bad. Like Max's brain is actively taunting him with how disgusting and backwards the irony of finding the murdered corpse of his infant son in this room designed to feel safe and Lovely is. The "Huggies!" poster in the baby's room in particular feels extremely cruel.
Love the goons. Love how the killer suits are revealed through their dialogue to be LARPing idiots who want to live out the same power fantasy the player is. Just having played the opening chapters of 2 last night "My gun's name is Dick Justice" contrasted against the appearance of Dick Justice as a TV show that's very clearly a parody of Max himself in 2 also feels like it's retrospectively calling attention to Max's own state as a roleplaying weirdo, which from what people have told me/what I've played thus far is a thing that gets explored a lot in 2. Feel as if another review on here by Woodaba illustrates this point much better than I could.
Gunplay is obviously very tight and stylish. Chugging painkillers while mid-shoot dive then switching your weapon is tons of fun and can help you choreograph genuinely excellent little shooutouts, and when you get the grenade launcher it becomes indispensable to beat the reaction time of late-game enemies while also ensuring you don't blow yourself up. VATs got absolutely lauded when FO3 came out but I think this game is very impressive for bothering to make sniper shots bullet-cams and slow-motion enemy deaths into a source of flair in the same way that game does but in 2001. Feels as if every weapon is designed around how cool it'll feel to be used in bullet time. I will say, however, that I wish the shotgun felt a bit more viable in the late game without having to use the Jackhammer. I felt like I was still able to use most of my other weapons towards the end aside from the one-handed variants of the Beretta and Ingram, but pulling out the sawed-off or pump-action just felt like an easy way to get killed. Feels like it limited the scope of what an encounter could look like at the end of the game just a tiny bit.
Overall this was a blast. Managed to pull me away from the Hitman: Freelancer Hardcore doom spiral (which I want to write about at some point because it's so fun but also so insane both in how it twists Hitman into a roguelike and the thematic shit weirdness that comes with that) which I can only thank it for because I need a break from beating my head against a wall due to being Bad At Gaming. Love you Maxwell! Just keep being yourself and you can do anything! :)
post-review note: Jesus Christ does Rockstar need to do some serious patching work on this. I know the remake is coming out but c'mon man. Got softlocked in the Vinny chase because white men can't jump unless they're running at or below 60 FPS. Dude just fell into a pit because his movement in that cutscene is framerate dependent and I spent the rest of the mission watching goons react to a guy who wasn't there tell them to whack da crazy bastard. I was able to move cut-scenes for some reason and the section ended when the camera eternally hung on a scene that seemed to have its completion dependent on Vinny reaching a certain place which he couldn't because he was invincible and stuck in a hole somewhere. Needed to download a hex editor at one point, an expanded, open-source version of the NVIDIA control panel, add some framerate limiters on, etc. Pumping the game full of community patches and screaming "WE'RE LOSING HIM!" as something else with my rig causes visual fuckery every other chapter. Glad the game was good enough to make constant troubleshooting worth it.
Maybe I shouldn't be quite as harsh to 2019 me but I do think this game clicks a lot more once you accept that it's very difficult and requires you to use all the tools at your disposal. Individual rooms are little gunplay puzzles that you need to maybe die to once or twice before using bullet time to clear effectively. Thinking bullet time was "style over substance" or w/e just meant I wasn't really playing Max Payne at all. To be fair I was originally playing this out of obligation a guy who thought I would be hotter if I also liked Remedy games so it's not surprising I just wanted the whole game to be over.
I think I also just wasn't into it enough to appreciate how genuinely fun a lot of the storytelling is- started playing Max Payne 2 at the time of writing this and I like the pacing and cut-scene direction in it even more but here you can see a lot of that same style even as it seems they have to stretch their budget way thinner. The graphic novel sections are wonderful and I love seeing all the photo-sourced panels- you get the impression the devs were having a blast, they're leaning into the camp of it all. Still, other sections manage to be much darker in a way that feels effective. Any section set in Max's house or a nightmare variation of it is genuinely uncomfortable; the bit in the one nightmare section where almost all the walls in the house are replaced with the disgustingly cheerful wallpaper from the baby's room and rock-a-bye baby is echoing through the house got me pretty bad. Like Max's brain is actively taunting him with how disgusting and backwards the irony of finding the murdered corpse of his infant son in this room designed to feel safe and Lovely is. The "Huggies!" poster in the baby's room in particular feels extremely cruel.
Love the goons. Love how the killer suits are revealed through their dialogue to be LARPing idiots who want to live out the same power fantasy the player is. Just having played the opening chapters of 2 last night "My gun's name is Dick Justice" contrasted against the appearance of Dick Justice as a TV show that's very clearly a parody of Max himself in 2 also feels like it's retrospectively calling attention to Max's own state as a roleplaying weirdo, which from what people have told me/what I've played thus far is a thing that gets explored a lot in 2. Feel as if another review on here by Woodaba illustrates this point much better than I could.
Gunplay is obviously very tight and stylish. Chugging painkillers while mid-shoot dive then switching your weapon is tons of fun and can help you choreograph genuinely excellent little shooutouts, and when you get the grenade launcher it becomes indispensable to beat the reaction time of late-game enemies while also ensuring you don't blow yourself up. VATs got absolutely lauded when FO3 came out but I think this game is very impressive for bothering to make sniper shots bullet-cams and slow-motion enemy deaths into a source of flair in the same way that game does but in 2001. Feels as if every weapon is designed around how cool it'll feel to be used in bullet time. I will say, however, that I wish the shotgun felt a bit more viable in the late game without having to use the Jackhammer. I felt like I was still able to use most of my other weapons towards the end aside from the one-handed variants of the Beretta and Ingram, but pulling out the sawed-off or pump-action just felt like an easy way to get killed. Feels like it limited the scope of what an encounter could look like at the end of the game just a tiny bit.
Overall this was a blast. Managed to pull me away from the Hitman: Freelancer Hardcore doom spiral (which I want to write about at some point because it's so fun but also so insane both in how it twists Hitman into a roguelike and the thematic shit weirdness that comes with that) which I can only thank it for because I need a break from beating my head against a wall due to being Bad At Gaming. Love you Maxwell! Just keep being yourself and you can do anything! :)
post-review note: Jesus Christ does Rockstar need to do some serious patching work on this. I know the remake is coming out but c'mon man. Got softlocked in the Vinny chase because white men can't jump unless they're running at or below 60 FPS. Dude just fell into a pit because his movement in that cutscene is framerate dependent and I spent the rest of the mission watching goons react to a guy who wasn't there tell them to whack da crazy bastard. I was able to move cut-scenes for some reason and the section ended when the camera eternally hung on a scene that seemed to have its completion dependent on Vinny reaching a certain place which he couldn't because he was invincible and stuck in a hole somewhere. Needed to download a hex editor at one point, an expanded, open-source version of the NVIDIA control panel, add some framerate limiters on, etc. Pumping the game full of community patches and screaming "WE'RE LOSING HIM!" as something else with my rig causes visual fuckery every other chapter. Glad the game was good enough to make constant troubleshooting worth it.
Eu gosto de filme de ação
Um pouco mais bruto do que deveria, mas um belo diamante.
A história não é por si só muito complexa, mas consegue te envolver com a apresentação estilosa, as referências aleatórias e o fato do Max ser um personagem que te cativa sem sequer precisar de muito. Não tenho muito a comentar, mas não posso deixar de elogiar esses elementos todos.
De gameplay, primeiro eu preciso dizer que joguei a versão de PS2 por conta dele não ter na Steam e eu estar experimentando jogos em 4:3 com filtro CRT, e o interessante foi que, apesar do esquema de controle ser um pouco diferente do habitual principalmente pro que a gente tem hoje em dia, é MUITO bom e intuitivo. A gunplay é bem boazinha também, sendo um pouco mais permissiva pra quem joga no controle, e o level design é bem bacana também, tudo é relativamente simples de passar, e sempre vai ter uma salinha extra pra quem gosta de explorar arrumar uns painkillers a mais. Sobre a dificuldade, me surpreendeu um tanto até, mas é bem coisa de tentativa e erro, só insistir que dá tudo certo!
O que eu não gostei, e acho que todo mundo, mesmo na épca, odiou, foram as tentativas de ''plataforma'' do jogo. Os controles pra isso são horríveis, com aquele pulo super esquisito. Toda vez que você não tá atirando em algo, parece que o jogo tá perdendo tempo com bobagem, sinceramente.
E eu zerei um jogo pela primeira vez desde......... janeiro....... é......... minha cabeça tá tão ruim quanto a do próprio Max Payne.
A história não é por si só muito complexa, mas consegue te envolver com a apresentação estilosa, as referências aleatórias e o fato do Max ser um personagem que te cativa sem sequer precisar de muito. Não tenho muito a comentar, mas não posso deixar de elogiar esses elementos todos.
De gameplay, primeiro eu preciso dizer que joguei a versão de PS2 por conta dele não ter na Steam e eu estar experimentando jogos em 4:3 com filtro CRT, e o interessante foi que, apesar do esquema de controle ser um pouco diferente do habitual principalmente pro que a gente tem hoje em dia, é MUITO bom e intuitivo. A gunplay é bem boazinha também, sendo um pouco mais permissiva pra quem joga no controle, e o level design é bem bacana também, tudo é relativamente simples de passar, e sempre vai ter uma salinha extra pra quem gosta de explorar arrumar uns painkillers a mais. Sobre a dificuldade, me surpreendeu um tanto até, mas é bem coisa de tentativa e erro, só insistir que dá tudo certo!
O que eu não gostei, e acho que todo mundo, mesmo na épca, odiou, foram as tentativas de ''plataforma'' do jogo. Os controles pra isso são horríveis, com aquele pulo super esquisito. Toda vez que você não tá atirando em algo, parece que o jogo tá perdendo tempo com bobagem, sinceramente.
E eu zerei um jogo pela primeira vez desde......... janeiro....... é......... minha cabeça tá tão ruim quanto a do próprio Max Payne.
Нуар, история, подача, атмосфера, стрельба — всё шедеврально. Это не просто игра, это часть моей геймерской души
"I was in a computer game. Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing i could think of." - Max Payne
The night ended as it began, cold, ruthless, the only silver linings I would find were in the casings of the bullets I carved these concrete walls with.
Good time! I appreciate the Fallen Angels reference :)
Good time! I appreciate the Fallen Angels reference :)
jogo de tiro de mafioso e com tiroteio em câmera lenta? não tem como dar errado, ainda mais com uma história tão bem feita e PESADA como essa, que mostra logo na tua cara a esposa e bebê do protagonista mortas na sua frente, completamente de graça
I played Max Payne again with the First Person Payne mod.
Turning Max Payne into an FPS serves the game well. I didn't find it nearly as difficult as when I played through it last week, even with the higher difficulty and the bonus of remembering (most) of this game's tricks. The parking lot stage that gave me so much trouble last time was mostly a breeze but still an enjoyable non-stop action shooting gallery. Shoot dodging and rolling in first person actually work really well.
The only minor problem I had with the mod was not seeing which weapon I had equipped. You can see the text saying which gun you're holding, but being able to see the model would've been nice. The last nightmare sequence gave me the most trouble with the floating jumps not working and it seemed like Max's feet got caught up on the blood trails.
I consider the Max Payne series to be "honorary FPSs" meaning that FPS will enjoy them and using this mod made me certain Max Payne as a full blown FPS series would've worked perfectly.
Turning Max Payne into an FPS serves the game well. I didn't find it nearly as difficult as when I played through it last week, even with the higher difficulty and the bonus of remembering (most) of this game's tricks. The parking lot stage that gave me so much trouble last time was mostly a breeze but still an enjoyable non-stop action shooting gallery. Shoot dodging and rolling in first person actually work really well.
The only minor problem I had with the mod was not seeing which weapon I had equipped. You can see the text saying which gun you're holding, but being able to see the model would've been nice. The last nightmare sequence gave me the most trouble with the floating jumps not working and it seemed like Max's feet got caught up on the blood trails.
I consider the Max Payne series to be "honorary FPSs" meaning that FPS will enjoy them and using this mod made me certain Max Payne as a full blown FPS series would've worked perfectly.
I don’t play games. I smoke cigars and have premarital sex. I’m a detective for the dunkin donuts down the street and my wife was murdered by Tim Horton employees that were jealous. Now I want revenge. Also don’t buy this game on pc it’s broken, not even joking the game won’t load up without a mod
(series replay)
Returning to this one about 5 years later, there's a lot of things that still hold up and other things that I appreciate more having played more games (for one not having terrible aim)
Great start to an iconic series with a lot of charm and genuine soul
Returning to this one about 5 years later, there's a lot of things that still hold up and other things that I appreciate more having played more games (for one not having terrible aim)
Great start to an iconic series with a lot of charm and genuine soul
I was a little late to the party and I played this game in 2024 but I got touched by the story and the setting of the game.