case 4 and gumshoe carry dis game fo real doe gumshoe my goat
unfortunately this one has turnabout big top in it
Completion: Completed all 4 episodes.
Review: A great continuation of the original game. Just like the first entry, this game has a captivating, silly story and awesome music. It's perfect for the DS, and perfect for killing time. However, this doesn't have as many memorable moments compared to the original in my opinion, and feels much shorter. The Psyche-Locks aren't a super interesting addition, and there weren't any unique investigation mechanics. However, the last case is very thrilling, and makes for a fantastic finale to the game. Probably the weakest game of the original trilogy, but that doesn't mean it isn't strong.
Proof of Completion
Review: A great continuation of the original game. Just like the first entry, this game has a captivating, silly story and awesome music. It's perfect for the DS, and perfect for killing time. However, this doesn't have as many memorable moments compared to the original in my opinion, and feels much shorter. The Psyche-Locks aren't a super interesting addition, and there weren't any unique investigation mechanics. However, the last case is very thrilling, and makes for a fantastic finale to the game. Probably the weakest game of the original trilogy, but that doesn't mean it isn't strong.
Proof of Completion
LOVE ace attorney but this was not my fav
the worst one from the first trilogy but it has really good cases just ignore turnabout big top
Rispetto al primo mi è sembrato penalizzato dalla strabordante voglia di allungare a dismisura la componente più debole dei casi, quella prettamente investigativa, qui resa ulteriormente ridondante nonché afflitta da un cast di contorno non all'altezza delle aspettative. Inoltre viene talvolta a pesare l'assoluta rigidità del sistema di progressione; in diverse occasioni mi sono ritrovato bloccato in un punto morto perchè ho mancato quell'infinitesimale dettaglio che consente alla storia di azionare l'evento successivo, nonostante fossi già ampiamente giunto alle conclusioni che in linea teorica avrebbero dovuto innescare il ricambio della sequenza narrativa. Faccio un esempio: a un certo punto sollevi un'obiezione mostrando la prova che smentisce la tesi del testimone.. e viene considerato un errore perchè prima andrebbe selezionato il profilo di un determinato personaggio che porta avanti il dialogo e solo
successivamente è lecito mostrare la prova determinante. Alla base del ragionamento sussiste non la deduzione logica bensì la programmazione del codice perchè così è stato pensato e così deve essere fatto. Del resto questo è il genere di riferimento (più visual novel che adventure) e inoltre parliamo di un titolo del 2006, inutile ricercare lo svecchiamento di determinate dinamiche. Il secondo episodio si riprende egregiamente nelle fasi processuali, al solito tutte da ridere per le assurde situazioni con le quali si vanno a smontare le tesi dell'accusa. I singoli casi restano in ogni caso abbastanza scarsi se raffrontati a quelli del primo, manca un fil rouge che lega l'insieme in un'unica vicenda appassionante e almeno due casi su quattro sono davvero troppo, troppo lunghi.. l'ultimo soprattutto accusa non poca stanchezza nonostante il brillante plot-twist collocato a circa 2/3 che - nel finale - assume una divertente considerazione meta che parla al giocatore in misura maggiore di quanto faccia col protagonista.
successivamente è lecito mostrare la prova determinante. Alla base del ragionamento sussiste non la deduzione logica bensì la programmazione del codice perchè così è stato pensato e così deve essere fatto. Del resto questo è il genere di riferimento (più visual novel che adventure) e inoltre parliamo di un titolo del 2006, inutile ricercare lo svecchiamento di determinate dinamiche. Il secondo episodio si riprende egregiamente nelle fasi processuali, al solito tutte da ridere per le assurde situazioni con le quali si vanno a smontare le tesi dell'accusa. I singoli casi restano in ogni caso abbastanza scarsi se raffrontati a quelli del primo, manca un fil rouge che lega l'insieme in un'unica vicenda appassionante e almeno due casi su quattro sono davvero troppo, troppo lunghi.. l'ultimo soprattutto accusa non poca stanchezza nonostante il brillante plot-twist collocato a circa 2/3 che - nel finale - assume una divertente considerazione meta che parla al giocatore in misura maggiore di quanto faccia col protagonista.
Como el primero, VN increible con personajes carismaticos y OST maravillosa. He tardado un poco mas en entrar en este porque se me atragantó el caso del circo, pero se compensa todo por el último caso que es una absoluta barbaridad. Mis dieces.
What an interesting experience this was. From what I can tell, most Ace Attorney fans see this as a “high highs, low lows” kind of game, and yeah I’d say I agree with that. I think the new mainstays are very strong, Pearl and Franziska are both great characters, and again those highs are insanely high. The final case is better than every case in the first game, and the second one is very strong too. But the first case is a mixed bag, and Turnabout Big Top is one of the worst segments I’ve ever played in a video game LMAO. So that alone shows that the game is literally a 50/50 experience. I have my other issues with it as well, like how Franziska is kind of underutilized, and how it feels more like a tool for the overall series’ plot rather than something that is a conclusive story from start to end. Seems like the score I have is way too high, and tbh maybe you’re right 💀. But at the end of the day, it’s still Ace Attorney. All of the first game’s best qualities are still on full display here, the gameplay is insanely satisfying and cathartic to succeed in, the mysteries are consistently pretty investing and leave you wanting to know the truth, the main characters are still as strong as ever, if not stronger. Characters like Edgeworth and even Mia get new sides explored of them that we didn’t really see in the previous game, and the dilemma that Phoenix is faced with in the final trial is genuinely incredible, and acts as a fascinating deep dive into his character. Sure Maya is pretty much the same but also she’s the goat so I can let it slide. Basically, if this were a game in a shittier franchise, then it’d be a LOT more fucked.
"It doesn't matter how many underhanded tricks a person uses... The truth will always find a way to make itself known. The only thing we can do is to fight with the knowledge we hold and everything we have. Erasing the paradoxes one by one... It's never easy... We claw and scratch for every inch. But we will always eventually reach that one single truth. This I promise you." -Miles Edgeworth, Farewell, My Turnabout
Taking place a few months after the first Ace Attorney game, Justice for All has Phoenix defending his clients once again, while dealing with the sudden disappearance of Edgeworth.
While this game doesn't have an exclusive DS case like its predecessor, it does introduce a new mechanic called Psyche-Locks, as well as more important characters that make later appearances in the series.
Now then, let's move on to the cases, shall we?
Lost Turnabout- Phoenix must defend his client while dealing with a case of sudden amnesia.
This case blows. The amnesia thing was stupid and the only reason the writers came up with it was so that they had an excuse to bring up the tutorial again. The culprit was also terrible and while I think he's funny, I also think he is one of the worse culprits in the series. At least this case isn't too short like the First Turnabout (which I still prefer over this one). Ranking: 3rd/4th
Reunion, and Turnabout- Taking place a few months before the Lost Turnabout, Phoenix must once again defend his mentor's sister, Maya, after a spirit channeling gone wrong.
This case feels like it's supposed to be a successor to Turnabout Sisters. It introduces the aforementioned Psyche-Locks mechanic where Phoenix uses the evidence/profiles he has to "unlock" the secrets people are hiding. It helps make the game feel less like a visual novel, and more like an actual game. I liked this case's culprit as well, more than I liked Turnabout Sisters' culprit. A pretty solid case overall. Ranking: 2nd/4th
Turnabout Big Top- Phoenix defends a world-famous magician after he is accused of murdering his ringmaster.
Every group chat got the: pedophile, sheltered child, pedophile, guy who's okay with murdering said child, pedophile, Moe the clown. ...Holy shit I think I joined the Berry Big Circus.
This case is 100% dogshit. Every other character you meet is a pedophile, some of the logic is shitty, the culprit isn't introduced until damn near the end so by the time you do meet him it's already so obvious, not to mention they gave him a sad backstory so that you would forget that he was planning to kill a child. Moe was funny though, and I'm actually a little sad that we never see him as the ringmaster later in the series. Ranking: 4th/4th
Farewell, My Turnabout- Phoenix must defend an actor after an assassin kidnaps Maya and will only let her go if Phoenix gets an complete acquittal for said actor.
The Lost Turnabout and Turnabout Big Top were only trials to see if you are worthy enough to witness the peak writing of this case. This case is truly one of the best in the series, even better than Turnabout Goodbyes in my opinion, even though Farewell, doesn't have the buildup that Goodbyes had. Edgeworth returning, revealing he left after Phoenix's damage to his perfect record forced him to think about what it truly means to be a prosecutor. Now, it's Phoenix's turn, as he must think about what it truly means to be a lawyer, as he is forced to defend a guilty client. The culprit is also really good and is one of my favorites ( I just like culprits who are masterminds in disguise). This case was supposedly meant to be the final case of the Ace Attorney series, but considering that later games take up new protagonists, I think this case would be better if was the end to Phoenix's saga, instead of the series as a whole. Ranking: 1st/4th
While Farewell, My Turnabout is peak, the rest of the game is kind of shit. The soundtrack is alright, but pales in comparison to its predecessor. It's still a game you should play if you were a fan of the first game.
Taking place a few months after the first Ace Attorney game, Justice for All has Phoenix defending his clients once again, while dealing with the sudden disappearance of Edgeworth.
While this game doesn't have an exclusive DS case like its predecessor, it does introduce a new mechanic called Psyche-Locks, as well as more important characters that make later appearances in the series.
Now then, let's move on to the cases, shall we?
Lost Turnabout- Phoenix must defend his client while dealing with a case of sudden amnesia.
This case blows. The amnesia thing was stupid and the only reason the writers came up with it was so that they had an excuse to bring up the tutorial again. The culprit was also terrible and while I think he's funny, I also think he is one of the worse culprits in the series. At least this case isn't too short like the First Turnabout (which I still prefer over this one). Ranking: 3rd/4th
Reunion, and Turnabout- Taking place a few months before the Lost Turnabout, Phoenix must once again defend his mentor's sister, Maya, after a spirit channeling gone wrong.
This case feels like it's supposed to be a successor to Turnabout Sisters. It introduces the aforementioned Psyche-Locks mechanic where Phoenix uses the evidence/profiles he has to "unlock" the secrets people are hiding. It helps make the game feel less like a visual novel, and more like an actual game. I liked this case's culprit as well, more than I liked Turnabout Sisters' culprit. A pretty solid case overall. Ranking: 2nd/4th
Turnabout Big Top- Phoenix defends a world-famous magician after he is accused of murdering his ringmaster.
Every group chat got the: pedophile, sheltered child, pedophile, guy who's okay with murdering said child, pedophile, Moe the clown. ...Holy shit I think I joined the Berry Big Circus.
This case is 100% dogshit. Every other character you meet is a pedophile, some of the logic is shitty, the culprit isn't introduced until damn near the end so by the time you do meet him it's already so obvious, not to mention they gave him a sad backstory so that you would forget that he was planning to kill a child. Moe was funny though, and I'm actually a little sad that we never see him as the ringmaster later in the series. Ranking: 4th/4th
Farewell, My Turnabout- Phoenix must defend an actor after an assassin kidnaps Maya and will only let her go if Phoenix gets an complete acquittal for said actor.
The Lost Turnabout and Turnabout Big Top were only trials to see if you are worthy enough to witness the peak writing of this case. This case is truly one of the best in the series, even better than Turnabout Goodbyes in my opinion, even though Farewell, doesn't have the buildup that Goodbyes had. Edgeworth returning, revealing he left after Phoenix's damage to his perfect record forced him to think about what it truly means to be a prosecutor. Now, it's Phoenix's turn, as he must think about what it truly means to be a lawyer, as he is forced to defend a guilty client. The culprit is also really good and is one of my favorites ( I just like culprits who are masterminds in disguise). This case was supposedly meant to be the final case of the Ace Attorney series, but considering that later games take up new protagonists, I think this case would be better if was the end to Phoenix's saga, instead of the series as a whole. Ranking: 1st/4th
While Farewell, My Turnabout is peak, the rest of the game is kind of shit. The soundtrack is alright, but pales in comparison to its predecessor. It's still a game you should play if you were a fan of the first game.
This game is a masterpiece if you skip Turnabout Big Top
i genuinely want to know what was going on with takumi when he made this one because this game is so incredibly and unceasingly depressing, it's WILD.
T&T and AA can be pretty messed up but they do not compare in that regard. Not saying that's necessarily a good or bad thing but the way he used that to bring out the central thing of the game...it's something.
T&T and AA can be pretty messed up but they do not compare in that regard. Not saying that's necessarily a good or bad thing but the way he used that to bring out the central thing of the game...it's something.
Weakest of the OG trilogy. Still great though.
A solid game but the weakest of the Ace Attorney trilogy. Cases two and four were great!
Originally played this in high school but have since replayed multiple times. The final case is easily my favorite in the series, to the point where I call this my second favorite game in the series, but the other cases can be a bit ehh. There are also a few very obtuse leaps in logic that can kill the momentum.
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Going through case by case
2-1
Really shitty rehash of the original opening case with a dumb excuse for why everything is getting re-explained. The killer is dumb though I do enjoy Maggey. I'd be willing to bump the case up a point for her but she shows up later on and does just as well if not better. 1/5
2-2
One of my sleeper favorite cases actually. I very openly am not a huge fan of Maya (though Pearl is adorable and a great secondary assistant for the game) but any time they use spirit channeling and it's implications in the mystery is some of my favorite stuff. I like the killer sort of ambiently, she's not my favorite by any regard but she does what she needs to, with the real star antagonist being Morgan who I love. Unfortunately, a bit overshadowed by a later case involving spirit channeling and Morgan Fey...
Oh yeah Franziska shows up here and she's good 4/5
2-3
Yeah it's turnabout big top, I don't know what else to tell ya...
I hate Moe less than the average person and I actually think the killer's motivation and final reveal is pretty neat but that's about where it stops for me. Max is a middling defendant who gets in the way far too often, and Ben Woodman is a strong contender for my least favorite character in the series. I'm a fan of fun dumb murders but the execution that defies the laws of physics reaches way too far over the line in the name of a concept that isn't fun in the first place. Also hate that there's a really prominent plot point of a love triangle between a 21 year old, a 31 year old, and a fucking 16 year old.
That's all I can really say for this, especially when every complaint of this case has already been made somewhere online. 2/5
2-4
Ooh boy this is the biggun. If you play Justice for all, play it for this case because it is phenomenal and absolutely worth the slog of 2-1 and 2-3. Franziska being smacked out of an opportunity to have the final case for this game irks me a a bit but her final conversation with Edgeworth makes up for it in my mind and I really like how she ends up here. I love the habit of bringing back a few old characters who make sense for the scenario, though this mainly extends to Will powers since Wendy exists more or less as the amazing human obstacle without her fun dynamic with Edgeworth for the time we had it in 1-3. Adrian Andrews is such a good character who has been put through the ringer so much and it hurts every time you have to try and corner her.
Speaking of which, this case is great at constantly keeping you on your toes with Phoenix needing to walk the tightrope of figuring out the truth while keeping Maya safe. It's part of what makes Matt Engarde such a great despicable killer. Ultimately, a phenomenal ending to a somewhat middling entry to the series. 5/5
Overall, Justice for all is absolutely worth your time if only for that final case, but that's not to say it's without merit. The second case is also great and some of the new additions like Psyche locks give the investigations more depth that they sorely needed.
2-1
Really shitty rehash of the original opening case with a dumb excuse for why everything is getting re-explained. The killer is dumb though I do enjoy Maggey. I'd be willing to bump the case up a point for her but she shows up later on and does just as well if not better. 1/5
2-2
One of my sleeper favorite cases actually. I very openly am not a huge fan of Maya (though Pearl is adorable and a great secondary assistant for the game) but any time they use spirit channeling and it's implications in the mystery is some of my favorite stuff. I like the killer sort of ambiently, she's not my favorite by any regard but she does what she needs to, with the real star antagonist being Morgan who I love. Unfortunately, a bit overshadowed by a later case involving spirit channeling and Morgan Fey...
Oh yeah Franziska shows up here and she's good 4/5
2-3
Yeah it's turnabout big top, I don't know what else to tell ya...
I hate Moe less than the average person and I actually think the killer's motivation and final reveal is pretty neat but that's about where it stops for me. Max is a middling defendant who gets in the way far too often, and Ben Woodman is a strong contender for my least favorite character in the series. I'm a fan of fun dumb murders but the execution that defies the laws of physics reaches way too far over the line in the name of a concept that isn't fun in the first place. Also hate that there's a really prominent plot point of a love triangle between a 21 year old, a 31 year old, and a fucking 16 year old.
That's all I can really say for this, especially when every complaint of this case has already been made somewhere online. 2/5
2-4
Ooh boy this is the biggun. If you play Justice for all, play it for this case because it is phenomenal and absolutely worth the slog of 2-1 and 2-3. Franziska being smacked out of an opportunity to have the final case for this game irks me a a bit but her final conversation with Edgeworth makes up for it in my mind and I really like how she ends up here. I love the habit of bringing back a few old characters who make sense for the scenario, though this mainly extends to Will powers since Wendy exists more or less as the amazing human obstacle without her fun dynamic with Edgeworth for the time we had it in 1-3. Adrian Andrews is such a good character who has been put through the ringer so much and it hurts every time you have to try and corner her.
Speaking of which, this case is great at constantly keeping you on your toes with Phoenix needing to walk the tightrope of figuring out the truth while keeping Maya safe. It's part of what makes Matt Engarde such a great despicable killer. Ultimately, a phenomenal ending to a somewhat middling entry to the series. 5/5
Overall, Justice for all is absolutely worth your time if only for that final case, but that's not to say it's without merit. The second case is also great and some of the new additions like Psyche locks give the investigations more depth that they sorely needed.
A bit weaker than the first PW:AA game, but nonetheless still a great time. The cases range from alright (I didn't have much a problem with Turnabout Big Top) to phenomenal (Farewell, My Turnabout is peak). The characters are still as great as usual; Gumshoe still has no money, Edgeworth is still the funniest guy ever. The new characters, particularly Pearl Fay and Franziska von Karma, are both really great and I'm excited to see more of them.
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All managed to do a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong. Let's start with the positives before discussing the negatives.
The two new characters this game introduced were good. I enjoyed Pearl and Franziska (even though the latter was completely underused during the final episode). I also liked the Psyche-Lock mechanic this game introduces. In the first title, I thought people handed information over to Phoenix too easily. I'm glad to see there are some pieces of information you have to work on getting.
The biggest sin in this title is that most of the episodes are boring. The final one is great, but the others range from downright awful to simply okay. In the first Ace Attorney I found myself edging closer to the screen because I was that hooked on the story. I can't say the same for this one, unfortunately.
In short, this certainly is a game. It introduced some nice elements but most of the stories fell short of the mark.
The two new characters this game introduced were good. I enjoyed Pearl and Franziska (even though the latter was completely underused during the final episode). I also liked the Psyche-Lock mechanic this game introduces. In the first title, I thought people handed information over to Phoenix too easily. I'm glad to see there are some pieces of information you have to work on getting.
The biggest sin in this title is that most of the episodes are boring. The final one is great, but the others range from downright awful to simply okay. In the first Ace Attorney I found myself edging closer to the screen because I was that hooked on the story. I can't say the same for this one, unfortunately.
In short, this certainly is a game. It introduced some nice elements but most of the stories fell short of the mark.
To me, Justice for All is the weakest of the base trilogy, and I could even say I enjoyed it less than Apollo Justice for example.
That's not to say this game is without its good moments though: Franzeska is a good character in this game but she does get better in other games in my opinion
Farewell my turnabout is an amazing episode that is unfortunately a bit predictable but it doesnt take that much away from it.
I don't want to beat a dead horse but turnabout big top is my least favorite case from the entire series and it's a huge detriment to the game overall in my opinion
That's not to say this game is without its good moments though: Franzeska is a good character in this game but she does get better in other games in my opinion
Farewell my turnabout is an amazing episode that is unfortunately a bit predictable but it doesnt take that much away from it.
I don't want to beat a dead horse but turnabout big top is my least favorite case from the entire series and it's a huge detriment to the game overall in my opinion
I really liked the first one this one genuinely was just lame until the last case
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more like 'justice for all but phoenix wright' my poor guy gets assaulted HOW many times ... ?
can't even imagine how much more he's gonna go through in the rest of the series ...
jfa is ... interesting as in i feel like it both deserves better and is just okay at the same time ... it felt more often at times a drag to get through but holy shit does the last case fucking slap harder than franziska's whip and make everything worth it to get to that point .
[EPISODE 1-]
the amnesia thing felt kinda dumb it's like ... tutorial for the people who decided to play a sequel before the original ... i don't understand why people do that it's like why are you starting at the middle of a series ... regardless i /might/ be able to forgive it as long as they don't do it ever again . don't do it i swear to god .
this one felt more basic compared to the first trial in the first game it didn't hook me nearly as much ... but it's passable for what it is ... doesn't feel narratively all that important compared the first game's more relevant one as the latter set up wright's character and hints at the class trial ...
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[EPISODE 2-]
this one is pretty decent i felt a bit fatigued tho i feel like i probably liked this one a little less than others did ? it's far from bad it was just kinda 'okay' to me to where i really just don't have much to say about it ...
the whole setup and culprit are interesting but i feel like morgan's kind of ,.. just there and then she's like 'MUAHAHA IM RAISING MY CHILD TO BECOME THE HEIR TO THE FAMILY FUCK MAYA SHES A BITCH' and then wright pretends like he heard none of that bc he secretly agrees
idrk i just don't have much to say on this one ? it's just okay in my opinion ... pearls is cute and while i like her ... i really try my best to just ignore it but i groan a little bit whenever she ships wright and maya it's like ... in a little kid way it's kinda cute and while i understand /why/ she does that can't they please just explain things to her and make things less awkward ... speaking of uncomfortable 'ship' stuff ...
[EPISODE 3-]
in the words of wright himself - 'absolutely cringe-inducing'
hmm something nice to say ...
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it's got edgeworth in the epilogue and i nearly threw up out of shock seeing him in blue
i actually grew to like franziska starting here whereas i was before mostly indifferent and i felt kinda bad for her during this case (bc it's so bizarre and the madman wright is getting away with his outrageous theories again) and then even moreso in the final case and i'll expand on that later
i like the culprit keeping his cool the whole time only to just have tears quietly streaming down his face at the end ... the whole bat and ringmaster thing is just a tragic situation for everyone involved and is rather unfortunate for them so on those two fronts i did like the idea ...
it can be funny sometimes and it's so insane it almost makes sense but that's kinda a given anyway right ...
everything else tho ..,
do you think most of the alcohol used for the writing process was directed for this case ...
i did not much like the characters introduced here and i would prefer not to even think about all the gross age gap stuff involved so moving on
this case got my badge stolen which warrants the death penalty and when it was retrieved it fucked up the evidence slot order briefly un-fucking-forgivable
truly not just a clown , but the entire circus and like actual circuses i don't particularly enjoy them much and kinda view them as a waste of time personally
[EPISODE 4-]
i was really nervous about starting this one bc while avoiding spoilers i heard this was one of the best cases ...
yep
since i started the series i kept thinking 'what'll happen when wright has a client that's guilty' and here we find out what a hell of a ride it is
the stakes are raised immediately and is constantly dangling dangerously over a precipice throughout it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time i was sweating bullets i was so anxious with a constant pit in my stomach and had absolutely no clue what to expect ... then when i was making a dawning realisation on the true culprit i thought 'oh . THIS is what the title 'farewell , my turnabout' means' what a fantastic culprit even when i was interrogating him about his psychelocks a part of me STILL was clinging onto the hope that maybe there's a chance he could still be innocent and i felt the horror and betrayal right with wright and some kind of slight shame when engarde laughs about how overly trusting wright is
i'm curious what majority of people chose for that final verdict ... and the one before franziska arrives ... both times i chose guilty bc while maya's life would be endangered , i had to trust that the police would rescue her , i couldn't just let the real criminal get away and get an innocent party killed and again later i chose for guilty but i suppose that choice kinda didn't matter bc engarde begs for guilty anyway ... i suppose it's nice to have your cake and eat it too with 'got you your not guilty verdict like you asked have fun getting tracked down by an angry assassin ;)' but i didn't know that choice would still push engarde into pleading guilty and even if i initially knew i didn't just want to let him get declared 'innocent' even if de killer would be after him to me that wasn't ample enough justice - to still be labelled 'not guilty' when he was anything but - and i think narratively it works better for wright's character to have him still choose to 'lose' and give up his 'perfect record' which is kinda ironic bc i absolutely abuse my save states and i remember in an earlier case when i made a mistake and reloaded i thought 'no penalties i can't ruin my perfect record- oh .' and i just think that's amazing
absolutely fantastic case and it's well worth all the shit before it
'edgeworth , catch !' cue the greatest animation in the history of ever
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psychelocks are a new gimmick to spice investigations up a bit and while i like that it is rather frustrating having to quit and skip through mounds of dialogue because you picked the wrong profile or evidence ... speaking of i like the addition of presenting profiles it was something i had wondered briefly why it wasn't an option in the original so i was pleasantly surprised to see that was available here
the music definitely isn't as iconic as the first game's but i immediately noticed it felt ... sadder , generally more quiet and reserved as if in lingering mourning - reflecting wright's mental state as he's more bitter and jaded from the loss of his friend who he believes to be dead for the majority of the game and continues to be not doing so good as he negotiates a hostage situation involving another close friend .
while i did miss the original music , shaking it up was a good choice and i like the thematic nature i just described for it here ... i also like it bc the testimony music physically hurts less to listen to something about the original kinda makes me feel like getting a headache like it's good it just kinda feels a bit too loud and buzzy which applies to the psychelocks music too actually ...
as for new characters i have the most to say on franziska ...
i find it intriguing how in a way she's a parallel to wright ... cant remember who said it or when but a character mentioned the two having the same fiery determination and essentially strive for the same thing tho i wish her contrast and comparison to wright was a little more explored upon ...
she also serves as a sort of dark mirror to edgeworth as he has learned what being a prosecutor means yet she's still stuck in the shadow of living up to the von karma name and refuses to let go of her perfectionism until the end where she breaks a little and then my heart softened for her ... she's hardly a legal adult and has been burdened with so much weight of being like her father yet unlike him she also has some sympathy even as she's constantly harassing others with her whip - in case two she wants wright to strive for justified self-defence , not necessarily a fully guilty sentence until wright refuses to play by her rules ... and later in case 4 she can't understand why wright would be so okay with a loss on his record due to everything she's been taught and considers herself a failure for not being able to take her place in court and finally get her 'revenge' and then she's shown a form of kindness from edgeworth and even wright and i'm sure such a thing was probably a rarity for her ... she's been so openly antagonistic yet has the capacity for change ... i've grown to like her more as i came across her each time whereas i was indifferent before but put away the whip physical abuse is not acceptable behaviour
overall , it's definitely hit-or-miss in places but was undeniably still a wild ride , for better or worse and the fourth case again makes it all worth it even if the stuff before it isn't quite as spectacular , i still rather enjoy it although i will become mvk and speedrun big top every time i have to play it again
can't even imagine how much more he's gonna go through in the rest of the series ...
jfa is ... interesting as in i feel like it both deserves better and is just okay at the same time ... it felt more often at times a drag to get through but holy shit does the last case fucking slap harder than franziska's whip and make everything worth it to get to that point .
[EPISODE 1-]
the amnesia thing felt kinda dumb it's like ... tutorial for the people who decided to play a sequel before the original ... i don't understand why people do that it's like why are you starting at the middle of a series ... regardless i /might/ be able to forgive it as long as they don't do it ever again . don't do it i swear to god .
this one felt more basic compared to the first trial in the first game it didn't hook me nearly as much ... but it's passable for what it is ... doesn't feel narratively all that important compared the first game's more relevant one as the latter set up wright's character and hints at the class trial ...
large bananas
[EPISODE 2-]
this one is pretty decent i felt a bit fatigued tho i feel like i probably liked this one a little less than others did ? it's far from bad it was just kinda 'okay' to me to where i really just don't have much to say about it ...
the whole setup and culprit are interesting but i feel like morgan's kind of ,.. just there and then she's like 'MUAHAHA IM RAISING MY CHILD TO BECOME THE HEIR TO THE FAMILY FUCK MAYA SHES A BITCH' and then wright pretends like he heard none of that bc he secretly agrees
idrk i just don't have much to say on this one ? it's just okay in my opinion ... pearls is cute and while i like her ... i really try my best to just ignore it but i groan a little bit whenever she ships wright and maya it's like ... in a little kid way it's kinda cute and while i understand /why/ she does that can't they please just explain things to her and make things less awkward ... speaking of uncomfortable 'ship' stuff ...
[EPISODE 3-]
in the words of wright himself - 'absolutely cringe-inducing'
hmm something nice to say ...
uh
it's got edgeworth in the epilogue and i nearly threw up out of shock seeing him in blue
i actually grew to like franziska starting here whereas i was before mostly indifferent and i felt kinda bad for her during this case (bc it's so bizarre and the madman wright is getting away with his outrageous theories again) and then even moreso in the final case and i'll expand on that later
i like the culprit keeping his cool the whole time only to just have tears quietly streaming down his face at the end ... the whole bat and ringmaster thing is just a tragic situation for everyone involved and is rather unfortunate for them so on those two fronts i did like the idea ...
it can be funny sometimes and it's so insane it almost makes sense but that's kinda a given anyway right ...
everything else tho ..,
do you think most of the alcohol used for the writing process was directed for this case ...
i did not much like the characters introduced here and i would prefer not to even think about all the gross age gap stuff involved so moving on
this case got my badge stolen which warrants the death penalty and when it was retrieved it fucked up the evidence slot order briefly un-fucking-forgivable
truly not just a clown , but the entire circus and like actual circuses i don't particularly enjoy them much and kinda view them as a waste of time personally
[EPISODE 4-]
i was really nervous about starting this one bc while avoiding spoilers i heard this was one of the best cases ...
yep
since i started the series i kept thinking 'what'll happen when wright has a client that's guilty' and here we find out what a hell of a ride it is
the stakes are raised immediately and is constantly dangling dangerously over a precipice throughout it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time i was sweating bullets i was so anxious with a constant pit in my stomach and had absolutely no clue what to expect ... then when i was making a dawning realisation on the true culprit i thought 'oh . THIS is what the title 'farewell , my turnabout' means' what a fantastic culprit even when i was interrogating him about his psychelocks a part of me STILL was clinging onto the hope that maybe there's a chance he could still be innocent and i felt the horror and betrayal right with wright and some kind of slight shame when engarde laughs about how overly trusting wright is
i'm curious what majority of people chose for that final verdict ... and the one before franziska arrives ... both times i chose guilty bc while maya's life would be endangered , i had to trust that the police would rescue her , i couldn't just let the real criminal get away and get an innocent party killed and again later i chose for guilty but i suppose that choice kinda didn't matter bc engarde begs for guilty anyway ... i suppose it's nice to have your cake and eat it too with 'got you your not guilty verdict like you asked have fun getting tracked down by an angry assassin ;)' but i didn't know that choice would still push engarde into pleading guilty and even if i initially knew i didn't just want to let him get declared 'innocent' even if de killer would be after him to me that wasn't ample enough justice - to still be labelled 'not guilty' when he was anything but - and i think narratively it works better for wright's character to have him still choose to 'lose' and give up his 'perfect record' which is kinda ironic bc i absolutely abuse my save states and i remember in an earlier case when i made a mistake and reloaded i thought 'no penalties i can't ruin my perfect record- oh .' and i just think that's amazing
absolutely fantastic case and it's well worth all the shit before it
'edgeworth , catch !' cue the greatest animation in the history of ever
[(mostly) EVERYTHING ELSE]
psychelocks are a new gimmick to spice investigations up a bit and while i like that it is rather frustrating having to quit and skip through mounds of dialogue because you picked the wrong profile or evidence ... speaking of i like the addition of presenting profiles it was something i had wondered briefly why it wasn't an option in the original so i was pleasantly surprised to see that was available here
the music definitely isn't as iconic as the first game's but i immediately noticed it felt ... sadder , generally more quiet and reserved as if in lingering mourning - reflecting wright's mental state as he's more bitter and jaded from the loss of his friend who he believes to be dead for the majority of the game and continues to be not doing so good as he negotiates a hostage situation involving another close friend .
while i did miss the original music , shaking it up was a good choice and i like the thematic nature i just described for it here ... i also like it bc the testimony music physically hurts less to listen to something about the original kinda makes me feel like getting a headache like it's good it just kinda feels a bit too loud and buzzy which applies to the psychelocks music too actually ...
as for new characters i have the most to say on franziska ...
i find it intriguing how in a way she's a parallel to wright ... cant remember who said it or when but a character mentioned the two having the same fiery determination and essentially strive for the same thing tho i wish her contrast and comparison to wright was a little more explored upon ...
she also serves as a sort of dark mirror to edgeworth as he has learned what being a prosecutor means yet she's still stuck in the shadow of living up to the von karma name and refuses to let go of her perfectionism until the end where she breaks a little and then my heart softened for her ... she's hardly a legal adult and has been burdened with so much weight of being like her father yet unlike him she also has some sympathy even as she's constantly harassing others with her whip - in case two she wants wright to strive for justified self-defence , not necessarily a fully guilty sentence until wright refuses to play by her rules ... and later in case 4 she can't understand why wright would be so okay with a loss on his record due to everything she's been taught and considers herself a failure for not being able to take her place in court and finally get her 'revenge' and then she's shown a form of kindness from edgeworth and even wright and i'm sure such a thing was probably a rarity for her ... she's been so openly antagonistic yet has the capacity for change ... i've grown to like her more as i came across her each time whereas i was indifferent before but put away the whip physical abuse is not acceptable behaviour
overall , it's definitely hit-or-miss in places but was undeniably still a wild ride , for better or worse and the fourth case again makes it all worth it even if the stuff before it isn't quite as spectacular , i still rather enjoy it although i will become mvk and speedrun big top every time i have to play it again
Pretty good. Case 3 is a low point obviously and I wish that they did more with Franziska, like I don't really get why they sidelined her so hard in case 4, but, other than that, it's just more Ace Attorney fun. Case 2 was pretty good and case 4 was really great. I'm hoping that Trials and Tribulations is more of a step up though, like this was fun but it didnt really feel particularly better than the first game overall
This game is so good even though it's core gameplay mechanic (the puzzle solving/evidence presentation) is not even good. There's a lot of wonky adventure game logic but I feel absolutely no guilt looking up the solutions to the puzzles. I'm here mostly for the presentation. The story is completely insane but somehow works very well. These characters are just so endearing even if they are mostly over the top. It's just so fun to pretend to be Phoenix Wright I don't know. I feel like i could tear this game apart but I just had a good time playing it, despite its flaws.
There is some bad stuff here:
opaque solutions
too much spirit channeling
you know the eight-year old is channeling your old partner because she grows giant tits...
There is some bad stuff here:
opaque solutions
too much spirit channeling
you know the eight-year old is channeling your old partner because she grows giant tits...
After replaying it, I have to say this is a vast improvement over the first game. Characters feel more fleshed out, and the cases are wildly more interesting. Not to mention the masterpiece that is the last case of the game. I feel like the short length of the game, compared to its predecessor, really sets it back a little bit. I think DeKiller could've used some more buildup through an extra case in between.
Worthy successor to first one.
Magatama sections can be a bit tiresome, some cases drag for longer than they should, and the first case is rather dumb. But all cases from second onward carry a lot more emotional weight than the ones in first game, so Justice for All is definitely worth playing.
Magatama sections can be a bit tiresome, some cases drag for longer than they should, and the first case is rather dumb. But all cases from second onward carry a lot more emotional weight than the ones in first game, so Justice for All is definitely worth playing.
Originally emulated this - later bought it with my own money. Great game and great follow-up to a classic!
cases 2 and 4 are good.
the rest are bad.
the rest are bad.
Justice for All is widely agreed on to be the weakest of the Ace Attorney trilogy, for reasons I can understand. It only contains four cases out of the typical five, for one. The first case being a tutorial and the third, infamously, being brought down by the pedophile love triangle plotline. For all of that though, it still introduces incredibly important developments for the series; premiering Fransizka and finishing with the much revered Farewell, my Turnabout
As a child this was easily the least influential game for me, I absolutely could not STAND Fransizka and none of the cases stood out to me much. Now though, I definitely feel more positive about it. I still dont have much attraction for the 1st and 3rd cases but I'm pretty impressed by the overall implications the events in this game have over the rest of the series. In a way, some of it feels partly like a set up for T&T, especially the happenings with Morgan and Pearl. But heres where we start getting smarter and more thoroughly crafted cases, psyche locks also being an intresting way to interact with and progress characters outside of court. As a kid I think I preferred Maya, but honestly Pearl is very endearing and a delight to have as an assistant. Her being more "mature" than her cousin despite her age introduces a lot of funny situations and also reinforces my belief that 9 year old girls are the greatest force on the planet. Mimi Miney and Acro are two of my favorite killers in the trilogy, and I thought Mimi's situation in the 2nd case specifically was very cleverly thought out.
Unfortunately this game (all of the trilogy, really) has some bad habits which annoyed me in JFA particularly. One is just straight up showing you who the killer is- if not in the opening cutscene then just at a random point throughout the case. The other is withholding all developement until you present a random item/profile to a character- despite the fact that you may have already discussed said item with said character 2 or 3 times but you havent ACTUALLY unlocked the conversation topic for it until you show them. And it is very easy go forget what you should be showing whom as theres no way to keep track of dialouge, so that can be a tad frustrating.
Farewell, my Turnabout is a huge bombshell in terms of the logic of the series and opens up a lot of questions that it is still answering. Mainly, what it means to be a defense lawyer and what the search for truth actually looks like, if the law can even uphold that standard, and how to make the right decision within that confinement. Watching Phoenix grow throughout the game from being an anxious rookie to a genuine attorney is important, but it's really only evident through the developments in this case as his and Miles' relationship is reestablished. Miles himself has grown into the character we more or less remember him as, and in a world where prosecutors hate your guts, it is very refreshing to watch a dynamic where the two work together and mesh with each other so easily. Because of the game's length, Fransizka tended to be sidelined a great deal of the time (being the only prosecutor to not even have her own theme), but she did get her moments throughout case 4 that made my heart hurt a little. Especially the post credits scene which had me tearing up a bit at the end, it is a huge shame we dont really see more of her throughout JFA and T&T because I adore her and she should be treated better.
Overall I'm kind of just happy to finally be playing T&T now, and while I wouldnt risk it all dying on the hill of defending JFA- it IS still a very good and important game to the Ace Attorney series regardless of how much you may want to hang Trilo upsidedown by his feet and force feed him milk till he pukes.
umm, like... how do I close out a review? I kind of, like, forgot. Sorry.
As a child this was easily the least influential game for me, I absolutely could not STAND Fransizka and none of the cases stood out to me much. Now though, I definitely feel more positive about it. I still dont have much attraction for the 1st and 3rd cases but I'm pretty impressed by the overall implications the events in this game have over the rest of the series. In a way, some of it feels partly like a set up for T&T, especially the happenings with Morgan and Pearl. But heres where we start getting smarter and more thoroughly crafted cases, psyche locks also being an intresting way to interact with and progress characters outside of court. As a kid I think I preferred Maya, but honestly Pearl is very endearing and a delight to have as an assistant. Her being more "mature" than her cousin despite her age introduces a lot of funny situations and also reinforces my belief that 9 year old girls are the greatest force on the planet. Mimi Miney and Acro are two of my favorite killers in the trilogy, and I thought Mimi's situation in the 2nd case specifically was very cleverly thought out.
Unfortunately this game (all of the trilogy, really) has some bad habits which annoyed me in JFA particularly. One is just straight up showing you who the killer is- if not in the opening cutscene then just at a random point throughout the case. The other is withholding all developement until you present a random item/profile to a character- despite the fact that you may have already discussed said item with said character 2 or 3 times but you havent ACTUALLY unlocked the conversation topic for it until you show them. And it is very easy go forget what you should be showing whom as theres no way to keep track of dialouge, so that can be a tad frustrating.
Farewell, my Turnabout is a huge bombshell in terms of the logic of the series and opens up a lot of questions that it is still answering. Mainly, what it means to be a defense lawyer and what the search for truth actually looks like, if the law can even uphold that standard, and how to make the right decision within that confinement. Watching Phoenix grow throughout the game from being an anxious rookie to a genuine attorney is important, but it's really only evident through the developments in this case as his and Miles' relationship is reestablished. Miles himself has grown into the character we more or less remember him as, and in a world where prosecutors hate your guts, it is very refreshing to watch a dynamic where the two work together and mesh with each other so easily. Because of the game's length, Fransizka tended to be sidelined a great deal of the time (being the only prosecutor to not even have her own theme), but she did get her moments throughout case 4 that made my heart hurt a little. Especially the post credits scene which had me tearing up a bit at the end, it is a huge shame we dont really see more of her throughout JFA and T&T because I adore her and she should be treated better.
Overall I'm kind of just happy to finally be playing T&T now, and while I wouldnt risk it all dying on the hill of defending JFA- it IS still a very good and important game to the Ace Attorney series regardless of how much you may want to hang Trilo upsidedown by his feet and force feed him milk till he pukes.
umm, like... how do I close out a review? I kind of, like, forgot. Sorry.
similar to the first game in score if u include RftA but it does feel far less cohesive and consistent, sometimes seeming as if they just crammed a few random cases to fill in a second game while they were working on Trials & Tribulations
net win still tho
net win still tho
A sequel done greatly. PW:AA 1 set the stage for the story of this one and JFA ran with it. I agree with the general consensus that case 4 of this game is the best of all, but I really love all 3 others in this game, as well!