Weaker than NMH in all aspects, besides graphics and MAYBE combat. Even so, PEAK game.
more like No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle to be a good sequel lmao
It is for sure a step down from the first game, but dammit I love it anyways. It retains the amazing music, tons of memorable boss fights and fun gameplay. The narrative takes a huge hit, although most moments are still decent. The best way to describe it is it has the spirit of the first game, but lacking in the substance to work with it. The enemy variety is annoying and you'll spend most of the game knocked on your ass.
If you loved the first game this is still a high recommendation. Hard not to love it despite it's flaws.
If you loved the first game this is still a high recommendation. Hard not to love it despite it's flaws.
Good game with good gameplay but MAN the story makes me scratch my head and pisses me off thinking about it more
I love to jerk!
I think I prefer the controls and movement in the first game, but this game is still good. There is still glitches in this steam port that might disrupt some parts of the game, but it’s still fun and playable to completion.
Not as good as the first game but not as bad as everyone made it out to be. Learned Suda was less involved in this one and you can for sure feel it at times. Still though I had a really good time, the presentation was kicked up by 11 which really added to it.
Lots of great character design, environment design, and the soundtrack rules! There was less grinding for money, but also the jobs were not as fun/less memorable as they played a smaller role. The gym minigames were a little too hands on to still cost money as well, the strength mini game was really hard for me lol. Losing the overworld is also a shame, made everything feel way more disjointed than the first game. I also thought things were too easy this time around, most bosses I could stun lock, some of them were just annoying (Shinobu's two fights mainly), and the ones by the end finally STARTED to feel good but never got to the heights of the original.
I know there was a lot of complaining there, but the good in this game is still really good! If you're looking to have dumb fun with Travis, this game serves it's purpose. Excited to see where the next two games go once they go on sale again, but I do not have $80 to drop at the moment. So I'll prob be checking out some of the other Suda games first, up next is Killer7!
I would probably recommend this game if you liked the first No More Heroes, but if you haven't played any, you gotta start with that one.
Oh yeah. Did I mention you can get dual beam katanas in this one? Now that's moe.
Lots of great character design, environment design, and the soundtrack rules! There was less grinding for money, but also the jobs were not as fun/less memorable as they played a smaller role. The gym minigames were a little too hands on to still cost money as well, the strength mini game was really hard for me lol. Losing the overworld is also a shame, made everything feel way more disjointed than the first game. I also thought things were too easy this time around, most bosses I could stun lock, some of them were just annoying (Shinobu's two fights mainly), and the ones by the end finally STARTED to feel good but never got to the heights of the original.
I know there was a lot of complaining there, but the good in this game is still really good! If you're looking to have dumb fun with Travis, this game serves it's purpose. Excited to see where the next two games go once they go on sale again, but I do not have $80 to drop at the moment. So I'll prob be checking out some of the other Suda games first, up next is Killer7!
I would probably recommend this game if you liked the first No More Heroes, but if you haven't played any, you gotta start with that one.
Oh yeah. Did I mention you can get dual beam katanas in this one? Now that's moe.
Was really hyped for this upon seeing the trailer initially, but it lost a lot of depth in it's combat and gameplay with this one. The oversimplification of it along with removing the open world in lieu of boring menus made this game rather forgettable. The "Bigger" cast of Assassin's Travis goes against has many filler villains that leave no impression comparable to the top 10 in NMH1. Overall, I was glad to have got a chance to play as Travis again, but this experience should've been a dish baked far far longer.
this is what i mean when i say im going to bed btw. mixed opinions...quite....
The music slaps
um retrocesso em basicamente tudo, só o combate que teve algumas melhorias, a adição de novos personagens jogáveis e a trilha sonora que é incrível, de resto a história é fraquíssima, enrolada e sem foco, o mundo aberto foi totalmente cortado e substituído por teleportes em cada local do mapa, todos os minigames foram substituídos por versões 8-bit extremamente chatas e mal feitas, sem contar que o jogo tem basicamente o dobro de chefes e a maioria deles não tem metade da qualidade do primeiro jogo, só se salvam os 4 últimos e olhe lá, uma das coisas que incomodam também é como o travis simplesmente virou outro personagem, raramente ele age do mesmo jeito que no 1. no geral, é um jogo que tenta se expandir muito, ser mais bonito, ser mais bem feito, ser mais cinematográfico, e isso acabou fazendo ele ser inferior ao primeiro
Juegaso se guarda cagando
will definitely do a bitter playthrough. the gameplay is awesome and the OST is just pure perfection.
fatstronaut guy is the best boss
I actually ended up enjoying this game more than the first event though it ended up more grindy for me in between rank battles. This is on my own choosing of course because I decided to buy different outfits per battle. The story was much more crazy and confusing than the first and the gameplay is improved a little bit.
Una evolución bastante notoria de las mecánicas del primer juego, incluso siento que fueron mejoradas además de la inclusión de diferentes armas lo hicieron bastante ameno de jugar... Pero no todo es color de rosa.
Lamentablemente, Desperate Struggle tiene los jefes más olvidables de la franquicia y una re-escritura de Travis Touchdown que no venía al caso.
Pudo haber sido 100000% veces mejor que hubieran esperado años más en sacar una secuela pero ya escrita por Suda.
Lamentablemente, Desperate Struggle tiene los jefes más olvidables de la franquicia y una re-escritura de Travis Touchdown que no venía al caso.
Pudo haber sido 100000% veces mejor que hubieran esperado años más en sacar una secuela pero ya escrita por Suda.
Pra um jogo que não foi dirigido pelo Suda, até que ele é bem massa e mantém a essência com suas discussões interessantes escondidas por trás de boss fights extremamente malucas e engraçadas. A história não é tão boa quanto a do primeiro, mas continua legal, e a gameplay tb melhorou. Só o loop dela que não, mas enfim
Combat is a severe improvement over the first game, but everthing else is a mixed bag.
The minigames are abhorrent and much prefered the first games minigames when it came to everything.
The story, which whilst has it's touching moments that can be rather profound and deep, really does feel like it's just here for the sake of having a new NMHs game.
The minigames are abhorrent and much prefered the first games minigames when it came to everything.
The story, which whilst has it's touching moments that can be rather profound and deep, really does feel like it's just here for the sake of having a new NMHs game.
This game sucks
No More Heroes 2 é um jogo que infelizmente se escora muito na sombra do seu antecessor, mas que quando utiliza da sua autonomia ele demonstra ser um jogo excelente e bastante subestimado.
Praticamente todo o brilho de No More Heroes 2 está nos elementos novos que ele apresenta em relação ao primeiro, com uma história mais focada e bem construída e um Travis muito diferente do de antes em um bom sentido.
Na review do primeiro jogo eu comentei sobre a maneira que ele comenta sobre a cultura de banalização da violência de maneira bem breve, pois não era o foco do jogo, mas aqui esse é o tema central da história e é pra mim o ponto mais forte dele.
A maneira com que o jogo satiriza isso tornando o Travis em um psicopata ainda maior do que antes perdendo todo o seu humor e só se importando com a vingança é genial, mas não só isso como também a forma que essa personalidade dele é desenvolvida e retratada ao decorrer do jogo. A cada batalha que passa o Travis percebe a futilidade daquela matança até chegar em uma das últimas batalhas onde o jogo diz isso diretamente na sua cara fazendo com que o próprio protagonista perca a cabeça e decida por um fim nisso ele mesmo. Todo o jogo é desenvolvido em torno dessa crítica à cultura do consumismo e como ela criou uma apatia em relação à violência tanto gráfica quanto real e ele desenvolve tudo isso de uma maneira muito incrível e bem feita.
Vale destacar aqui também como a OST desse jogo é uma putaria de boa e que a adição de mais dois personagens jogáveis foi bem legal por mais que seja por poucas missões.
Infelizmente como eu comentei em cima o jogo se apoia muito no primeiro e praticamente todos os elementos que retornam dele são mais fracos aqui. O combate dessa vez realmente não é nada mais do que um button masher, a apresentação de tudo não tem o mesmo carisma que o original (onde a apresentação das coisas era um dos pontos mais fortes) o que por consequência deixa a maioria das boss fights sem graça e esquecíveis, de mais de 10 bosses eu gostei de verdade de menos da metade sendo que 2 desses foram bosses do primeiro jogo retornando. O jogo se baseia no seu antecessor sem entender o que fez ele ser tão bom afinal de contas, e acaba se mantendo muito pé no chão em relação a todos esses elementos.
Essa tentativa de tentar replicar o charme do No More Heroes original mas sem utilizar da mesma excentricidade dele acabou fazendo com que No More Heroes 2 caísse um pouco no meu conceito, mas isso de forma alguma o descredibiliza das suas qualidades, e é nos aspectos em que ele inova onde ele brilha de verdade e revela ser um jogo magnífico e que vale muito a pena ser jogado apesar dos seus defeitos.
Praticamente todo o brilho de No More Heroes 2 está nos elementos novos que ele apresenta em relação ao primeiro, com uma história mais focada e bem construída e um Travis muito diferente do de antes em um bom sentido.
Na review do primeiro jogo eu comentei sobre a maneira que ele comenta sobre a cultura de banalização da violência de maneira bem breve, pois não era o foco do jogo, mas aqui esse é o tema central da história e é pra mim o ponto mais forte dele.
A maneira com que o jogo satiriza isso tornando o Travis em um psicopata ainda maior do que antes perdendo todo o seu humor e só se importando com a vingança é genial, mas não só isso como também a forma que essa personalidade dele é desenvolvida e retratada ao decorrer do jogo. A cada batalha que passa o Travis percebe a futilidade daquela matança até chegar em uma das últimas batalhas onde o jogo diz isso diretamente na sua cara fazendo com que o próprio protagonista perca a cabeça e decida por um fim nisso ele mesmo. Todo o jogo é desenvolvido em torno dessa crítica à cultura do consumismo e como ela criou uma apatia em relação à violência tanto gráfica quanto real e ele desenvolve tudo isso de uma maneira muito incrível e bem feita.
Vale destacar aqui também como a OST desse jogo é uma putaria de boa e que a adição de mais dois personagens jogáveis foi bem legal por mais que seja por poucas missões.
Infelizmente como eu comentei em cima o jogo se apoia muito no primeiro e praticamente todos os elementos que retornam dele são mais fracos aqui. O combate dessa vez realmente não é nada mais do que um button masher, a apresentação de tudo não tem o mesmo carisma que o original (onde a apresentação das coisas era um dos pontos mais fortes) o que por consequência deixa a maioria das boss fights sem graça e esquecíveis, de mais de 10 bosses eu gostei de verdade de menos da metade sendo que 2 desses foram bosses do primeiro jogo retornando. O jogo se baseia no seu antecessor sem entender o que fez ele ser tão bom afinal de contas, e acaba se mantendo muito pé no chão em relação a todos esses elementos.
Essa tentativa de tentar replicar o charme do No More Heroes original mas sem utilizar da mesma excentricidade dele acabou fazendo com que No More Heroes 2 caísse um pouco no meu conceito, mas isso de forma alguma o descredibiliza das suas qualidades, e é nos aspectos em que ele inova onde ele brilha de verdade e revela ser um jogo magnífico e que vale muito a pena ser jogado apesar dos seus defeitos.
This review contains spoilers
I’ve written too much on this. The short version is that it fails to outdo, or even match the brilliance of the original. It’s a big Hollywood sequel that falls into the trap of believing bigger to be better. More playable characters, more opponents, etc. More depth? Not in the slightest. But at least it has a combat system that forces you to experiment with your tools and a kickass soundtrack.
Longer, more rambly, and disorganized version below.
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I've been thinking about the final hours of No More Heroes 2.
There's this screen in the Rank 2 level where you're walking past an apartment complex, and there's no music. Eventually, you reach the end of it and there's giant graffiti on one of the buildings: Travis' face in the style of Guerrillero Heroico. This is Desperate Struggle's plea to the player to recognize Travis as an icon, a rebel. In the cutscene after Alice's fight he butts heads with Sylvia, screaming "Look at this blood! We HUMANS are ALIVE!" It's his breakout moment, an outburst that's been bubbling ever since Sylvia brutally gunned down Ryuji many fights before.
And then after that, Sylvia goes over for sex and their fucking is so intense that the entire motel shakes while cartoon sounds play. That's No More Heroes 2, a game with real whiplash. The first game handled its drama and comedy with a lot of grace and knew exactly what it was doing, while Desperate Struggle flops all over the place. It leans hard into the power fantasy that 1 was parodying, with plenty of T&A and girls throwing themselves at Travis.
In this effort, Shinobu received a particularly thorough character assassination. Now she’s just a fangirl for Travis, and the whole deal is just creepy. She’s been made weaker in combat too: in the first game her ranking fight was a skill check, but in NMH 2 she's a low power character with a bad moveset. Most of the returning characters get raw deals too: Letz Shake has a real boss fight this time, but he only has two attacks! That’s less than the tutorial boss. New Destroyman’s fight has a novel concept, but since the boss is programmed to be a coward it’s boring and overlong. Henry’s level is cool but only lasts five minutes, which is a real bummer.
I don’t have enough gas in my tank to do a deep-dive on combat, but I will say that I enjoyed the changed mechanics here. The new camera and lock-on seemed simple at first but late-game engagements quickly made me realize two things: enemies WILL take advantage of your blind spots if you rely on lock-on too much, and getting knocked down will be the status quo if you’re not aware of your surroundings at all times. It’s a different ballgame than last time and I honestly like it.
I’ve read analyses online that dissect Desperate Struggle as a brilliant story about revenge, and while some of them are certainly neat, none of them overpower my gut feeling: the game tells its story in a shitty way. The expository cutscenes are a smorgasbord of titillation and bad soapy drama, and the cutscenes for bosses are often silent (fucking terrible for a hack n’ slash game btw), otherwise lacking in memorability. The two arguably most revered bosses in the game - Margaret and Alice - break this rule, and resemble the ranking fights from the first game. And that’s my main problem: where the original No More Heroes had a unified vision and meaning for almost everything, the second game just comes up short.
The most damning point of Desperate Struggle is that it will forever be a mediocre sequel to a great game. Nothing can save it from that reputation - no mods, updates, or remakes - because it is fundamentally flawed at its core. For now I'm soured on No More Heroes, and hope Travis Strikes Again will reignite my passion when I get there.
Longer, more rambly, and disorganized version below.
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I've been thinking about the final hours of No More Heroes 2.
There's this screen in the Rank 2 level where you're walking past an apartment complex, and there's no music. Eventually, you reach the end of it and there's giant graffiti on one of the buildings: Travis' face in the style of Guerrillero Heroico. This is Desperate Struggle's plea to the player to recognize Travis as an icon, a rebel. In the cutscene after Alice's fight he butts heads with Sylvia, screaming "Look at this blood! We HUMANS are ALIVE!" It's his breakout moment, an outburst that's been bubbling ever since Sylvia brutally gunned down Ryuji many fights before.
And then after that, Sylvia goes over for sex and their fucking is so intense that the entire motel shakes while cartoon sounds play. That's No More Heroes 2, a game with real whiplash. The first game handled its drama and comedy with a lot of grace and knew exactly what it was doing, while Desperate Struggle flops all over the place. It leans hard into the power fantasy that 1 was parodying, with plenty of T&A and girls throwing themselves at Travis.
In this effort, Shinobu received a particularly thorough character assassination. Now she’s just a fangirl for Travis, and the whole deal is just creepy. She’s been made weaker in combat too: in the first game her ranking fight was a skill check, but in NMH 2 she's a low power character with a bad moveset. Most of the returning characters get raw deals too: Letz Shake has a real boss fight this time, but he only has two attacks! That’s less than the tutorial boss. New Destroyman’s fight has a novel concept, but since the boss is programmed to be a coward it’s boring and overlong. Henry’s level is cool but only lasts five minutes, which is a real bummer.
I don’t have enough gas in my tank to do a deep-dive on combat, but I will say that I enjoyed the changed mechanics here. The new camera and lock-on seemed simple at first but late-game engagements quickly made me realize two things: enemies WILL take advantage of your blind spots if you rely on lock-on too much, and getting knocked down will be the status quo if you’re not aware of your surroundings at all times. It’s a different ballgame than last time and I honestly like it.
I’ve read analyses online that dissect Desperate Struggle as a brilliant story about revenge, and while some of them are certainly neat, none of them overpower my gut feeling: the game tells its story in a shitty way. The expository cutscenes are a smorgasbord of titillation and bad soapy drama, and the cutscenes for bosses are often silent (fucking terrible for a hack n’ slash game btw), otherwise lacking in memorability. The two arguably most revered bosses in the game - Margaret and Alice - break this rule, and resemble the ranking fights from the first game. And that’s my main problem: where the original No More Heroes had a unified vision and meaning for almost everything, the second game just comes up short.
The most damning point of Desperate Struggle is that it will forever be a mediocre sequel to a great game. Nothing can save it from that reputation - no mods, updates, or remakes - because it is fundamentally flawed at its core. For now I'm soured on No More Heroes, and hope Travis Strikes Again will reignite my passion when I get there.
if fake, why real
- Bishop!!! -
Con está secuela estoy dividido.
Pq?
Pues pq el juego quito el modo libre por el mapa, los trabajos extra son poco utiles pq ya no se pide dinero para los combates, la mayoria de asesinos se sienten más planos y con poca presentacion.
Y lo que menos me gusto fue la forma de mandar el mensaje sobre la violencia a los jugadores, antes la forma de hacerlo era sutil y uno se daba cuenta sin tener que mirar a Travis gritarlo a los 4 vientos.
Lo que si me gusto fue como mejoro el combate y como cada espada tiene una forma de usarse con ciertos combos.
Los graficos aquí ya se notan muy bien.
Y pues siguen con la crudeza, sangre y violencia tanto que hasta te permite pegarle a kimmy howell y sylvia le dispara a un niño xD.
Igual la musica está buenota 9/10
Ahora hay unas pequeñas secciones donde puedes usar a Henry y a Shinobu(pero se sienten toscos a la hora de jugar, en especial por los saltos de Shinobu)
Por fin pudimos mirar como el Travis la pone y deja de ser todo un Virgo, y ahora solo es un Otaku, trastornado, sucio, grosero y medio degenerado.
Con está secuela estoy dividido.
Pq?
Pues pq el juego quito el modo libre por el mapa, los trabajos extra son poco utiles pq ya no se pide dinero para los combates, la mayoria de asesinos se sienten más planos y con poca presentacion.
Y lo que menos me gusto fue la forma de mandar el mensaje sobre la violencia a los jugadores, antes la forma de hacerlo era sutil y uno se daba cuenta sin tener que mirar a Travis gritarlo a los 4 vientos.
Lo que si me gusto fue como mejoro el combate y como cada espada tiene una forma de usarse con ciertos combos.
Los graficos aquí ya se notan muy bien.
Y pues siguen con la crudeza, sangre y violencia tanto que hasta te permite pegarle a kimmy howell y sylvia le dispara a un niño xD.
Igual la musica está buenota 9/10
Ahora hay unas pequeñas secciones donde puedes usar a Henry y a Shinobu(pero se sienten toscos a la hora de jugar, en especial por los saltos de Shinobu)
Por fin pudimos mirar como el Travis la pone y deja de ser todo un Virgo, y ahora solo es un Otaku, trastornado, sucio, grosero y medio degenerado.
It isn't even really a bad game. But this is the least amount of emotion I've ever felt playing a video game. Worse than apathy, No More Heroes 2 made me wonder at multiple points if I even liked video games. I asked myself what I was doing with my life. I feel like a worse person having spent my time on this. Suda51 - if this next game is horseshit - I'm killing you, straight up.
Great but not nearly as good to the first game, downward fucking dog
A soulless imitation of the original. it feels like you're playing No More Heroes 1 remade by an edgy 10 year old! they butchered the storytelling, humor, gameplay, and Travis' character to name a few things. at least the music is great for the most part and there's enough dumb spectacle to be kind of fun most of the time.
This whole game is a mess. It's super streamlined that it ends up hurting itself. The music is the only highlight tbh
This game butchered Travis' character in a way that made him go from someone who I hung on every word he said in the first game to a guy I repeatedly wanted to punch in the face everytime he opened his mouth. Thank god for TSA and NMH3 redeeming his character because my god does this game just DESTROY it
The soundtrack for this game fucks. Wish it was more widely available. Sadly not much else has held up from it. It's by no means a bad game, but in comparison to the first, it doesn't hold a candle.
My hands hurt