Jet Set Radio's tutorial is very infamous for this. Also a fun fact that more people have beaten the game than the actual tutorial

Never played it myself but I always heard Driver San Francisco had a brutal tutorial compared to the rest of the game.

@Drax I actually felt that way when I was ten years old but when I played the game again a couple years back I finished it no issue. Maybe I just got lucky?

double what @drax said! Jet Set was the first one that came into my mind - it isn't mandatory to do the tutorial though (at least in the version I played), which I don't know if that's one of the requirements for the list.

To be honest I have no problem with tutorials. I'd rather a game get that out of the way instead of dragging out the process of getting introduced to all the stuff for hours.

This is gonna sound weird but growing up I thought it was really cool when games had stuff like this. Like, I loved when games would refer to the buttons on the controller or even like a brightness pattern in the options menu. It made me feel like I was getting closer to the game, like it was aware of my presence. Examples that I remember are those information blocks in Super Mario World that describe how to do very self-explanatory things and Ocarina of Time where it keeps mentioning Z-targetting. Like, the control overlay shows the buttons on the controller and I thought that was the coolest shit. It's like, my buttons are IN the game. I guess I don't really have a point here but did anyone else feel this way? I thought I was crazy person when I watched youtube videos and they criticized that same kind of stuff, when I thought it was super cool.

also if anyone makes a list for good tutorials put SEGA AGES Herzog Zwei on there, the tutorial is really good and made me laugh. It's cute

Its not really an official "tutorial" but i know the asylum demon and the taurus demon tend to make people drop ds1

@HylianBran: In hindsight the Jet Set Radio tutorial isn't that difficult, but it would appear pretty difficult for new players because of how weighty/committal Jet Set Radio's controls can often feel to outside players and how it tells you that you need to "do 50 tricks in a row" but doesn't explicitly mention that you need to string together combos by rail-grinding and wall-grinding in succession (jumping between set-pieces without touching the ground) using the Shibuya Bus Terminal infinite loop. Also, it teaches the turn-around slightly incorrectly (the tutorial tells you the turn-around is backwards -> forwards on the control stick while dashing but it's actually the opposite), so there's a decent chance some players got stuck on that too.

Wo-Long's filtered me.

Apparently resonance of fate's tutorial filters people

hellsinker's tutorial filtered me HARD. the tutorial HAS A TUTORIAL OF ITS OWN ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g85ne8vVbI4

@Dalaamclouds the tutorial being mandatory isn't strictly a requirement for this list. The list's name is intentionally dramatic. Any game tutorial that's notably hard is eligible for this list.

@moschidae I was considering that alongside stuff like the first area in SMT: Nocturne hard mode but I'm not sure if they truly count as tutorials.

Nice to hear Armored Core is still filtering people.

This is a great list.

It might just be me, but I was completely shut down by the tutorial for Mount & Blade II. None of the moves they were asking me to do on the controller had any effect; they were all stuff like "hit the trigger while moving your cursor across the enemy". My memory is that the Xbox store reviews were full of 1-star reviews from other controller players who were similarly stymied, but looking at the store now I'm not seeing that. Maybe they fixed it? Or maybe I'm just a moron haha. Either way, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw this list.

@Drax actually that makes perfect sense considering most people (aka not me) probably played Tony Hawk or something like that beforehand and they probably expect it to play like that. It was kind of the opposite for me, I couldn't play Tony hawk for the longest time since I expected it to control like jet set radio. People talk about the controls in jet set radio future as improved but I prefer the way the original feels. It's so unwieldy but in a way that feels natural, like holding the button that makes you go forward really makes you feel like you're blasting off super fast. I like it. It's one of those games where I have fun being bad at it, like Mario 64. Tumbling around like a dumbass is so much fun. It's interesting comparing that to Tony hawk where it's really fun until you fall off and you feel like shit. Maybe I'm the only person who feels this way. I forgot what I was talking about.

OH yeah I'm not sure if this would count or not because this didn't make me not want to play the game but the tutorials in metal gear rising are bad. Like, there's an optional tutorial from the menu AND there's a part in the game where a character tells you how to parry attacks, yet I still had no idea how do to it so when I initially played the game I couldn't get past the boss fight in the fourth level since you need to use a parry to expose him. This wasn't annoying at first but it prevented me from finishing the game it becomes a big problem so I figured I should mention it. I would consult the manual but the game released in 2013 so there might not even be one, plus if there is a tutorial it should teach me something so important.

sorry for all the comments while not contributing to the list

Knew right away what game it was that spawned this list idea, lol.

Whoops, just checked and it was the original Driver on the PS1, not San Francisco. My bad.

@vee, I've had the idea of making this list for a good while now, it's just that the launch of AC:VI made me commit to actually doing it haha