Good 2s

Examples of franchises where the second game vastly outshines the original, to the point where the thought of going back seems yucky.

Notes-
I've listed the originals instead of number 2, because I think the mental gymnastics are a little more fun that way
This is my list, and you're not allowed to say Resident Evil

Kero Kero King
Kero Kero King
Street Fighter
Street Fighter
TimeSplitters
TimeSplitters
Metal Gear
Metal Gear
Team Fortress
Team Fortress
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
The House of the Dead
The House of the Dead
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Fighter
SSX
SSX
Wave Race
Wave Race
Burnout
Burnout
OlliOlli
OlliOlli
Red Dead Revolver
Red Dead Revolver
Dynasty Warriors
Dynasty Warriors
EarthBound Beginnings
EarthBound Beginnings
Titanfall
Titanfall
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land
Suggested by Pangburn
Puyo Puyo
Puyo Puyo
Suggested by Pangburn
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Suggested by caebl201
Diablo
Diablo
Dratnerd
Paper Mario
Paper Mario
Suggested by Pangburn
Zone of the Enders
Zone of the Enders
Suggested by BeachEpisode
Gravity Rush
Gravity Rush
Suggested by BeachEpisode
Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus
Suggested by Pangburn
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot
Suggested by Rellni944
Akiba's Trip
Akiba's Trip
Suggested by Rellni944
Blue Reflection
Blue Reflection
Suggested by Rellni944
The Caligula Effect
The Caligula Effect
Suggested by Rellni944
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva
Suggested by Rellni944
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Suggested by Rellni944
Air Combat
Air Combat
Suggested by mutyumu
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men
Suggested by mutyumu
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
Suggested by mutyumu
Super Smash Bros.
Super Smash Bros.
Suggested by SunlitSonata

25 Comments


1 year ago

I feel a little bad about putting F-Zero here, even though I massively prefer X. Consider it filler until I get some better examples to populate this with.

1 year ago

Stole a couple from Jim's list and swapped out F-Zero with a much more appropriate Nintendo example

1 year ago

The difference between Uncharted 1 and 2 is night and day.

1 year ago

Dynasty Warriors? Complete genre switch, but nobody's out here saying what a great fighting game DW1 is

1 year ago

I wouldn't call it an awful game but seemingly no reason to play diablo 1 anymore

1 year ago

Yeah, I like quite a few of these games, but it's the relative quality of the first sequel that's important.
I considered a few of the 94-96 PS1 games that got much lusher sequels on the console later on (Tekken, Ridge Racer, Jumping Flash, etc.) but I've got too much affection for those originals to include them on my list.

1 year ago

you missed Devil May Cry 2

Its weird to think that Dynasty Warriors was a fighting game...

1 year ago

This is about when number 2 is better than number 1. I'm not listing Devil May Cry, sorry.

1 year ago

It is better it's the best one dante is so good

1 year ago

Bless you.
No.

1 year ago

Zone of the Enders 2, Gravity Rush 2

1 year ago

I considered ZOE, but my personal feelings towards the game's atmosphere and Kiss Me Sunlights prevented me from including it in my nominations. I'm glad you mentioned it though, as I was probably just looking for someone to blame.

1 year ago

Some of these series are pretty niche and unpopular in general but this is speaking from within the fans' eyes:

-Akiba's Trip: Undead & Undressed (the first game's remaster was hated even by fans of the sequel when it was finally localized)
-Blue Reflection: Second Light (one of the most dramatic shifts for the positive I've ever seen a sequel take)
-Caligula Effect 2 (same as above)
-Crash Bandicoot 2 (not saying the first Crash is bad but it sure is hard to go back to afterwards)
-Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (added the ability to hit notes with the D-pad, Extreme difficulty, songs featuring Vocaloids other than Miku, Diva room, in general a bunch of features that became staples of the series)
-Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 (again, speaking relatively, but the first game had a universally despised battle system which mk2 revamped into one more tolerable and hasn't been overhauled in the main series since)
-We Love Katamari (I know there are plenty of people that still like the original... but We Love really blows it out of the water)

1 year ago

I don't really have a strong opinion on any of these, but I'll include most of them out of goodwill. Unfortunately, I am an established Katamari Damacy loyalist.

1 year ago

- Sonic the Hedgehog, both Mega Drive and Master System versions.
- Sonic Adventure
- Half-Life
- Portal
- Donkey Kong Country

Just to name a few.

1 year ago

I think all of those are "good 2s" (never been much of a Sonic Adventure fan, but nonetheless), but I don't think they make the originals seem horrible to go back to. Sorry.

1 year ago

super mario land 2, sly 2, ace combat 2, elite beat agents (over osu tatakae ouendan), paper mario ttyd (that's controversial though), puyo puyo tsu, kururin paradise. maybe panzer dragoon zwei but i feel silly saying that considering i have only played the original and saga. i can clarify any of those picks if needed

1 year ago

Aahhh... a hotbed of suggestions. Kururin Paradise is really good, but I love Kuru Kuru Kururin too, and can't bring myself to include it. It's probably how much of a weeb I was when I first played it, but I couldn't warm to Elite Beat Agents the way I did with Ouendan (even if skipping the intros was a huge benefit to the game). Zwei's one I hear a lot, but I've only played the original and Orta, and I'd like a more informed stance before verifying. Can't argue with the others though. They're in.

1 year ago

MGS2 outshines MGS1 in probably every way imaginable but MGS1 is still fantastic, so not sure if it matches your criteria

1 year ago

@Huss Going to have a tough time convincing me on that one, sorry

1 year ago

Air Combat (Ace Combat 2), Kane & Lynch Dead Men (Dog Days) and DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi (Tenkaichi 2)

1 year ago

Were you divided on Smash Melee? In terms of both mechanical depth and content it's a cut above Smash 64 but Smash 64 isn't bad, just limited.

1 year ago

I really like both Super Smash Bros and Melee, but the second is a huge jump over the original. I think that's a good call.

1 year ago

Octopath Traveller 2, Assassin's Creed 2 (huge improvement), Jet Set Radio Future (JSR is dogshit, Future is glorious), Mafia 2 (remake notwithstanding, it was a vastly more interesting sequel)


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