SketchItCat
2023
WitchSpring R had incredible potential and was an absolutely adorable and fun game, but through bloated content and too much melodrama, the game falls quickly from the heights the early hours of the game present.
The gameplay of WitchSpring R combine small amounts of alchemy, simple RPG combat, and overworld exploration to create an addictive gameplay loop that does not overstay its welcome for its gametime, with possibilities to defeat hard enemies early on with the right strategies, enough diversibility that different builds can range drastically, while also having satisfying progression from start to finish apart from the end game where one can be overpowered for everything except the final boss which will prove to challenge even those who grinded excessively.
Combined with its simple art style and music that accompany this, it fits in perfectly as a smaller RPG to enjoy with a childlike adorable story mimicking the style used for children's stories. However, that story begins to drag and grows tiresome very early, as repeating events around the second quarter of the game really slow down progression and cause the story to be stuck at Lalaque village, with a few more segments feeling similarly poorly paced. Too many characters of which some are not very important end up dividing the screen time too wide, especially with some of these elements being repeated too often with some of these characters. I feel a large portion of the middle section of this game could have been cut as it adds pointless melodrama and at some points make some characters feel nearly irredeemable despite their status at the end of the game where they are redeemed. Such as Livya who had done mean things to Pieberry one too many times before she redeems herself to the point the repetition was eyerolling in Lalaque village when combined with all the other repetitive cutscenes in that section of the game.
The characters for what its worth are fun and fulfill their purposes in this very whimsical and childlike tale well, and Pieberry works wonderfully as a lead character to lead this story while learning more about other characters and befriending everyone along the way. I liked many characters, from Livya the tsundere knight, Luna the frost witch, Ralph the merchant, to Vernstein the leader of the rebellion.
As WitchSpring R is a recreation of the first game of the series, I'd say it does an admirable job of presenting this series to new comers and sets up well for its sequels, it just sadly is mired by a lot of segments that slow it down far too much in the middle segment of the game. The first two chapters of this game feel wonderful and if only reviewing that section I would give it a 4/5 because that is how good of a start this game has for leading you into its magical world. Sadly, as it goes on the payoff while satisfying does not justify the bloat in the ending. WitchSpring R serves as a good entry point to alchemy games, and has its own unique style that is fun and entertaining. Definitely pick this game up on sale if you're interested, I know I'll be keeping an eye out if WitchSpring R2 is announced.
The gameplay of WitchSpring R combine small amounts of alchemy, simple RPG combat, and overworld exploration to create an addictive gameplay loop that does not overstay its welcome for its gametime, with possibilities to defeat hard enemies early on with the right strategies, enough diversibility that different builds can range drastically, while also having satisfying progression from start to finish apart from the end game where one can be overpowered for everything except the final boss which will prove to challenge even those who grinded excessively.
Combined with its simple art style and music that accompany this, it fits in perfectly as a smaller RPG to enjoy with a childlike adorable story mimicking the style used for children's stories. However, that story begins to drag and grows tiresome very early, as repeating events around the second quarter of the game really slow down progression and cause the story to be stuck at Lalaque village, with a few more segments feeling similarly poorly paced. Too many characters of which some are not very important end up dividing the screen time too wide, especially with some of these elements being repeated too often with some of these characters. I feel a large portion of the middle section of this game could have been cut as it adds pointless melodrama and at some points make some characters feel nearly irredeemable despite their status at the end of the game where they are redeemed. Such as Livya who had done mean things to Pieberry one too many times before she redeems herself to the point the repetition was eyerolling in Lalaque village when combined with all the other repetitive cutscenes in that section of the game.
The characters for what its worth are fun and fulfill their purposes in this very whimsical and childlike tale well, and Pieberry works wonderfully as a lead character to lead this story while learning more about other characters and befriending everyone along the way. I liked many characters, from Livya the tsundere knight, Luna the frost witch, Ralph the merchant, to Vernstein the leader of the rebellion.
As WitchSpring R is a recreation of the first game of the series, I'd say it does an admirable job of presenting this series to new comers and sets up well for its sequels, it just sadly is mired by a lot of segments that slow it down far too much in the middle segment of the game. The first two chapters of this game feel wonderful and if only reviewing that section I would give it a 4/5 because that is how good of a start this game has for leading you into its magical world. Sadly, as it goes on the payoff while satisfying does not justify the bloat in the ending. WitchSpring R serves as a good entry point to alchemy games, and has its own unique style that is fun and entertaining. Definitely pick this game up on sale if you're interested, I know I'll be keeping an eye out if WitchSpring R2 is announced.
2018
Supergiant showed off their strengths in this game that is a culmination of their previous ones. Taking the strengths of early access to create an addictive roguelike with interesting upgrade paths, fun characters that are a very interesting spin on Greek Mythology, and snappy gameplay. I was glued to my seat from minute one, and loved exploring the Underworld while smashing apart enemies, collecting loot, and seeing more about the character that the team had brought out of these old Greek legends that if you're even semi-familiar with will put a smile to your face. As much as I think this game is a great introduction to roguelikes for many people, and would be my go to recommendation for the genre, I cannot rate it higher due to glaring flaws in its execution in my opinion. First of all, is the progression, which can taper off completely near the end of the game. Roguelikes live and die by their progression, as that is the core appeal of the games, short runs that can get very far, that have lasting rewards between runs to get further the next time. Hades starts off with excellent upgrading progression, but falls off about midway through the game to having most upgrades being insignificant in the latter half, this is a shame since there are clearly a lot of avenues by which it would have been possible to add more which can make the end game of Hades feel like a slog where it feels like very little is being unlocked. This also bleeds into the end game having less variety than it should have. Secondly, is how story progression is made. Story progression is made through dying and being able to speak to NPCs again, where they will sometimes have more dialogue if you completed new objectives or met certain thresholds. The problem with this however, is that it feels like it was programmed with very strange priorities, and also cannot be done in one return to camp. What I mean is, if you are very successful in a few short runs, then you will end up stacking dialogue with characters that you can only proceed by dying. Later on, this can mean completely locking yourself out of progressing a character's story until you die 20 times to pass through all their progression dialogue so you can finally get back to their new character dialogue. There are some characters who I have spoken to upwards to 40 times that I cannot unlock the relics of because I had so many progression dialogue sections unlocked for them that I was still catching up on them. The only way to fix this as a player is to kill yourself over and over again, which is incredibly tedious, and could be fixed easily with better priorities on the NPCs for which dialogue comes first.
I Was a Teenage Exocolonist is an interesting game with a lot of moving parts that have a distinct take on social simulation VN games like Princess Maker. The game tackles a lot of interesting science fiction ideas, with an engaging story that encourages multiple play throughs so that someone can get various different endings and variations on each playthrough to make each one feel unique as you cannot complete everything in one playthrough, much less your first which does lock you out of certain content.
However, the gameplay does not support multiple playthroughs. Each playthrough is very lengthy and time consuming, while the means of playing the game being tiring after even just one playthrough. The VN portions while having decent albeit young adult writing, can start to feel dull due to the text window needing a bit more refinement. The day to day movement along the map while being charming at the start begins to overstay its welcome due to the way it handles finding collectables which are very helpful with low respawn rates and also when events come up with certain characters, requiring you to run around the entire map every day to ensure nothing new came up. Furthermore, while the card game is interesting and fun at the start, it overstays its welcome and gets extremely tedious later on, especially once you start doing a lot of expeditions outside of the colony where you do multiple card game checks a day. The game just doesn't support multiple playthroughs through its gameplay, since it gets dull halfway through your first playthrough and will only get worse as you get to other playthroughs.
Speaking of, in your first playthrough there are many things you cannot do until your second playthrough, which does lock out some things. This would be really cool and something I would praise the game for, but its rough when each playthrough is so incredibly draining that I do not think I can handle a full second playthrough despite the good ideas behind it. As it is, this does mean the game locks you out of being able to get with one of the 2 women characters that will actually stay with your character in the ending, since 2/3 of the women characters you can date in your first playthrough will break up with you and sleep around with others after it despite you telling said character you're fine with open relationships, which can feel a bit problematic considering everyone in this game is bisexual so 2/3 first route romances with bi women end in getting broken up with for them to mess around feeling like a harmful stereotype. Speaking of, a lot of progressive ideas in this game can feel almost regressive or problematic at times which can be quite rough. While it has some interesting things to say about gender, some stereotypes and how it expresses polyamory, open relationships, and sexuality in general can be very rough. I will say I will always appreciate a piece of media that tries and fails to explore LGBTQ+ topics than one that doesn't bother at all, but it still bears bringing up.
Definitely a very ambitious, creative, and interesting game that is dragged down by a tedious gameplay loop that doesn't evolve enough as the game progresses to be able to support all the content in the game. Which is a shame, since there is a lot of good content in this game post a first playthrough that is worth exploring. I will probably get back to other playthroughs another time, but right now I feel it would be unfair to be trudging through gameplay I am burned out on to get to the new content.
However, the gameplay does not support multiple playthroughs. Each playthrough is very lengthy and time consuming, while the means of playing the game being tiring after even just one playthrough. The VN portions while having decent albeit young adult writing, can start to feel dull due to the text window needing a bit more refinement. The day to day movement along the map while being charming at the start begins to overstay its welcome due to the way it handles finding collectables which are very helpful with low respawn rates and also when events come up with certain characters, requiring you to run around the entire map every day to ensure nothing new came up. Furthermore, while the card game is interesting and fun at the start, it overstays its welcome and gets extremely tedious later on, especially once you start doing a lot of expeditions outside of the colony where you do multiple card game checks a day. The game just doesn't support multiple playthroughs through its gameplay, since it gets dull halfway through your first playthrough and will only get worse as you get to other playthroughs.
Speaking of, in your first playthrough there are many things you cannot do until your second playthrough, which does lock out some things. This would be really cool and something I would praise the game for, but its rough when each playthrough is so incredibly draining that I do not think I can handle a full second playthrough despite the good ideas behind it. As it is, this does mean the game locks you out of being able to get with one of the 2 women characters that will actually stay with your character in the ending, since 2/3 of the women characters you can date in your first playthrough will break up with you and sleep around with others after it despite you telling said character you're fine with open relationships, which can feel a bit problematic considering everyone in this game is bisexual so 2/3 first route romances with bi women end in getting broken up with for them to mess around feeling like a harmful stereotype. Speaking of, a lot of progressive ideas in this game can feel almost regressive or problematic at times which can be quite rough. While it has some interesting things to say about gender, some stereotypes and how it expresses polyamory, open relationships, and sexuality in general can be very rough. I will say I will always appreciate a piece of media that tries and fails to explore LGBTQ+ topics than one that doesn't bother at all, but it still bears bringing up.
Definitely a very ambitious, creative, and interesting game that is dragged down by a tedious gameplay loop that doesn't evolve enough as the game progresses to be able to support all the content in the game. Which is a shame, since there is a lot of good content in this game post a first playthrough that is worth exploring. I will probably get back to other playthroughs another time, but right now I feel it would be unfair to be trudging through gameplay I am burned out on to get to the new content.
2016
Persona 5 is a good game, but I cannot say it is a great one. If it is your first Persona game, it is easy to fall in love with its stunning visuals, great gameplay that is speedy and action packed with the new addition of baton pass, and fun cast of characters. It lulls you into the idea of it having a story that is willing on touching on taboos', introducing real world problems and a heinous villain that still sticks with me today. However, that is only the first few hours of the game. Messy execution of the Phantom Thieves' story, mixed and contradicting themes about individuality while conforming to society, each successive villain being less impressive than the first, with the last not even being intimidating, and more make it clear that some parts of the game are very hollow. I cannot say that I got very attached to the Phantom Thieves, and that is not for a lack of me trying, aside from Futaba and Makoto, all the Phantom Thieves have very little conflict within themselves, they are victims of circumstance rather than characters with flaws they must overcome, which make them less engaging than characters from the previous two entries. While I still liked characters like Futaba and Yusuke, the Phantom Thieves felt more like accomplices rather than an engaging group that had interesting dynamics. The fusion system is revamped from Persona 4, but without a system like shuffle time that Golden introduced, it can feel more limiting despite having a few more options. The social commentary it introduces sounds good on paper, but is often executed poorly and feels superficial.
I wish Morag and Brighid would make out on screen.
This game honestly feels like an overly ambitious mess that is like a parody of JRPG games. The overly complicated Blade system which also strangely plays itself, the utterly alien characters and dialogue, the strong performance issues where it feels like it is about to crash my Switch, and the utterly incomprehensible story that felt like it was written by a grade schooler who watched too much anime. It had its good moments, fun character designs especially for Blades, and the gacha elements were fun on paper (I'd really love a full price game that had a built in gacha like this game but used more effectively). I'm conflicted as I didn't hate it, and I don't think the game is awful, but I cannot in good faith recommend this to anyone.
This game honestly feels like an overly ambitious mess that is like a parody of JRPG games. The overly complicated Blade system which also strangely plays itself, the utterly alien characters and dialogue, the strong performance issues where it feels like it is about to crash my Switch, and the utterly incomprehensible story that felt like it was written by a grade schooler who watched too much anime. It had its good moments, fun character designs especially for Blades, and the gacha elements were fun on paper (I'd really love a full price game that had a built in gacha like this game but used more effectively). I'm conflicted as I didn't hate it, and I don't think the game is awful, but I cannot in good faith recommend this to anyone.
It has high highs, and ridiculously low lows. It has the bones of a good sci-fi detective mystery, it has a lot of interesting moving pieces, and it has some very good ideas. But ultimately it fumbles them in its execution as it attempts to act similar to Phoenix Wright's comedic tone, when the game functions better as a serious crime thriller. The comedy as well largely hinges on half the jokes being toward or in spite of women compared to Phoenix Wright, which makes the game much like the Yakuza series, something that I cannot in any good faith ever recommend to any of my woman friends.
Iris route is really bad, both in how it barely serves to forward the plot until the true ending, as well as how Iris can really grate on the player when she isn't just a side character. The fact you can choose Iris route first purely by a 50/50 coin flip at the start of the game can make the game rough to play. It is hard to describe just how much better Mizuki route is.
There are some really good and solid characters that are dragged down by some legitimately really awful ones with Aiba and Date's relationship being a highlight. Visuals and style could be beautiful, but also rough around the edges as it was clear they were working with a small budget. Playing around with dreams could be quite interesting but many puzzles were guesswork as a result. The action sequences could be funny, but were generally pretty bad. There was a lot of heart in here, but... Overall... Weakest of the big Mystery VNs in my opinion.
Iris route is really bad, both in how it barely serves to forward the plot until the true ending, as well as how Iris can really grate on the player when she isn't just a side character. The fact you can choose Iris route first purely by a 50/50 coin flip at the start of the game can make the game rough to play. It is hard to describe just how much better Mizuki route is.
There are some really good and solid characters that are dragged down by some legitimately really awful ones with Aiba and Date's relationship being a highlight. Visuals and style could be beautiful, but also rough around the edges as it was clear they were working with a small budget. Playing around with dreams could be quite interesting but many puzzles were guesswork as a result. The action sequences could be funny, but were generally pretty bad. There was a lot of heart in here, but... Overall... Weakest of the big Mystery VNs in my opinion.
2012
Summer memories of making friends, going to hangout and having legitimate connections that you carry with you for the rest of your life are the feelings this game evokes perfectly. In an RPG, the thing I value most is the party dynamic, and Persona 4 Golden has the best RPG party in my opinion, each character has a unique and fun dynamic with every other party member shown through their interactions and past in the game, making the small town of Inaba become recognizable, and feel like a second home. The themes of discovering oneself are universal, and it would be hard to get through every party member's dungeon without relating at least somewhat to at least one of the characters. The engaging web of relationships leads into the social link element of the game which while aged and could be better considering that each was written separately from the main story, still provide some depth and time management to the RPG system. The concise way battles work, the fusion mechanics, and the enjoyable shuffle time at the end of battles makes for laid back gameplay that can put your skills to the test on bosses should you not grind too much, and otherwise let you go ham if you want to show off your ability to build good characters in an RPG. Some elements of the game have not aged well, but its strengths override the dated portions. There is a reason this game is still spoken about, and compared to its successor Persona 5.
2021
Vampire Survivors is the video game equivalent of junk food. The game is excellently crafted in a surprisingly cheap way to bring you the most enjoyment in the shortest amount of time. The game itself is the best of its type, being an addictive game in the same vein as idle games, but with a touch more gameplay than normal. That slight bit of gameplay is all it needs to be able to be an enjoyable experience with everything else in the game being automated. The upgrades presented inside the gameplay itself alter the gameplay dramatically and can give builds that are satisfying, overpowered, and game breaking in a way that is a taste of the sort of game breaking builds you would make in traditional JRPG games in the past. Including roguelike mechanics for getting even more powerful outside of stages with every single run in a way that has been struggled to be replicated by competitors such as HoloCure that struggles to provide the same level of flexibility and enjoyment in its roguelike mechanics.
Vampire Survivors is fast, easy to get into, and can get challenging in the late game without sufficient grinding. By all accounts, this is a fun game that I should be able to recommend to any friend.
However, the game itself is horribly cheap. It preys upon players with its gambling adjacent mechanics such as its treasure chests, it reuses and barely modifies original sprites from other games, as well as using other prominant game art for reference to its artwork in game. It has nothing really unique to add as everything is a parody of Castlevania, and even its music is simply rip-offs of the pixel era of those games.
Vampire Survivors is a junk food. When you're bored and want something quick to play, this game will be servicable and very enjoyable with some quick packed extreme flavor. Though, it is clearly unhealthy for you and not going to be nearly the same as eating at a fantastic restaurant for a masterclass steak. Though, with its cheap price point and lack of micro-DLC and actual real world gambling or loot-boxes, I can't really look at this as something negative. It had wrapped me around its finger for my 100% completion of the game. Sometimes you really just want to eat your favorite flavor of chips, health be damned. Just remember to have a proper meal afterward.
Vampire Survivors is fast, easy to get into, and can get challenging in the late game without sufficient grinding. By all accounts, this is a fun game that I should be able to recommend to any friend.
However, the game itself is horribly cheap. It preys upon players with its gambling adjacent mechanics such as its treasure chests, it reuses and barely modifies original sprites from other games, as well as using other prominant game art for reference to its artwork in game. It has nothing really unique to add as everything is a parody of Castlevania, and even its music is simply rip-offs of the pixel era of those games.
Vampire Survivors is a junk food. When you're bored and want something quick to play, this game will be servicable and very enjoyable with some quick packed extreme flavor. Though, it is clearly unhealthy for you and not going to be nearly the same as eating at a fantastic restaurant for a masterclass steak. Though, with its cheap price point and lack of micro-DLC and actual real world gambling or loot-boxes, I can't really look at this as something negative. It had wrapped me around its finger for my 100% completion of the game. Sometimes you really just want to eat your favorite flavor of chips, health be damned. Just remember to have a proper meal afterward.
I honestly have a lot less to say about Eternal Punishment as I did with Innocent Sin. I found the game to be enjoyable, but definitely did start to grow dull toward the middle to end sections, and it didn't pick up much in the conclusion for me.
I think much of this has to do with a lot of the story being retreading of Innocent Sin, with a lot of the structure being entirely beat for beat recreations of events in Innocent Sin. There was nothing offensive, but very few standout moments that had me feeling satisfied. I'd say that the major problem I had was the emotional throughline felt weak to me, as it was largely pushed toward Tatsuya who is not present through most of the game and story until the very end. While it didn't have anything as offensively bad or gross as the nazis, or the wasted potential of the Masked Circle in the first game... It also just felt lacking. Such as finding the fortune telling to be weaker than the wish granting and shadow men scenario in Innocent Sin. Again, just an alright and passable story that didn't grip me as much as I would have liked.
As far as the main cast: While I did enjoy Katsuya and Baofu and their bickering, I didn't really feel much for Ulala or Maya, who was weakened greatly with her voice being taken away. Maya still served as a better protagonist that Tatsuya in my opinion, but making her silent was a large mistake. As a result, with it largely being the four characters through most of the story, I felt their chemistry could have been stronger. With Maya silent, there was no fun banter with Ulala with her, and instead the best banter Ulala gets is with Baofu. Katsuya and Baofu have their moments with their morals ending up on opposite sides given one is a detective and one is a vigilante, but there also wasn't much with Baofu and Maya. Katsuya's crush on Maya was cute however. Tatsuya himself felt like he was written into being too gloomy, and while it makes sense in this scenario and with the themes of maturing and adulthood, it does take away other aspects of his character from the past game with him making goofy sounds to demons. I had gone with Nanjo route for story, and Nanjo largely was just the same as he was in P1, but I felt he had less chemistry with the EP cast than Yukino did with Maya in IS. As a result, it often feels like there are 3 1/2 party members for the full game, with Ulala, Katsuya, Baofu, and silent protagonist Maya. I would have liked the party to have a stronger connection, which probably would have helped with Maya no longer being silent, and Tatsuya opening up more in the end game.
The gameplay was largely the same, with a bit more difficulty put onto boss fights so they weren't as braindead as they were in Innocent Sin. I found the game to be a good blend of difficulty for the limited combat system, only finding some aspects to be more annoying and not well thought out. Such as the Old Maid skill being something that bosses could spam rather than having a cooldown or trigger to activate, and that some enemies had skills that could completely drain your wallet. In that sense, they just felt more mean-spirited than difficult. Beyond that, my thoughts from Innocent Sin's gameplay is largely the same. It was serviceable, was an improvement to problems in P1, still miss the grid system, but still doesn't reward exploiting weaknesses as much as SMT games, or future Persona games. Leading to using your favorite spell over and over again generally being the best strategy.
Overall, Eternal Punishment is mostly a lot more of Innocent Sin, but without the offensive parts of it. It has a decent story, a decent cast of characters, and decent gameplay for the time it came out in. Though, I think it does lack the strong emotional core and the highlights of Innocent Sin that I liked about it. In this sense, Eternal Punishment was fun, but nothing standout to me. Compared to Innocent Sin's constant highlights and low points, Eternal Punishment was just a steady ride from beginning to end. 3.5/5
I think much of this has to do with a lot of the story being retreading of Innocent Sin, with a lot of the structure being entirely beat for beat recreations of events in Innocent Sin. There was nothing offensive, but very few standout moments that had me feeling satisfied. I'd say that the major problem I had was the emotional throughline felt weak to me, as it was largely pushed toward Tatsuya who is not present through most of the game and story until the very end. While it didn't have anything as offensively bad or gross as the nazis, or the wasted potential of the Masked Circle in the first game... It also just felt lacking. Such as finding the fortune telling to be weaker than the wish granting and shadow men scenario in Innocent Sin. Again, just an alright and passable story that didn't grip me as much as I would have liked.
As far as the main cast: While I did enjoy Katsuya and Baofu and their bickering, I didn't really feel much for Ulala or Maya, who was weakened greatly with her voice being taken away. Maya still served as a better protagonist that Tatsuya in my opinion, but making her silent was a large mistake. As a result, with it largely being the four characters through most of the story, I felt their chemistry could have been stronger. With Maya silent, there was no fun banter with Ulala with her, and instead the best banter Ulala gets is with Baofu. Katsuya and Baofu have their moments with their morals ending up on opposite sides given one is a detective and one is a vigilante, but there also wasn't much with Baofu and Maya. Katsuya's crush on Maya was cute however. Tatsuya himself felt like he was written into being too gloomy, and while it makes sense in this scenario and with the themes of maturing and adulthood, it does take away other aspects of his character from the past game with him making goofy sounds to demons. I had gone with Nanjo route for story, and Nanjo largely was just the same as he was in P1, but I felt he had less chemistry with the EP cast than Yukino did with Maya in IS. As a result, it often feels like there are 3 1/2 party members for the full game, with Ulala, Katsuya, Baofu, and silent protagonist Maya. I would have liked the party to have a stronger connection, which probably would have helped with Maya no longer being silent, and Tatsuya opening up more in the end game.
The gameplay was largely the same, with a bit more difficulty put onto boss fights so they weren't as braindead as they were in Innocent Sin. I found the game to be a good blend of difficulty for the limited combat system, only finding some aspects to be more annoying and not well thought out. Such as the Old Maid skill being something that bosses could spam rather than having a cooldown or trigger to activate, and that some enemies had skills that could completely drain your wallet. In that sense, they just felt more mean-spirited than difficult. Beyond that, my thoughts from Innocent Sin's gameplay is largely the same. It was serviceable, was an improvement to problems in P1, still miss the grid system, but still doesn't reward exploiting weaknesses as much as SMT games, or future Persona games. Leading to using your favorite spell over and over again generally being the best strategy.
Overall, Eternal Punishment is mostly a lot more of Innocent Sin, but without the offensive parts of it. It has a decent story, a decent cast of characters, and decent gameplay for the time it came out in. Though, I think it does lack the strong emotional core and the highlights of Innocent Sin that I liked about it. In this sense, Eternal Punishment was fun, but nothing standout to me. Compared to Innocent Sin's constant highlights and low points, Eternal Punishment was just a steady ride from beginning to end. 3.5/5
2009
This review contains spoilers
I really think that people exaggerate how the limitations of the PSP make this the inferior version of Persona 3 for a number of reasons. I admit, I am used to the visual novel genre and as such do not hold the fact that this game due to limitations had to remove a number of the visual elements of the game, but I do think people underestimate the good changes made toward the FEMC route of this game that were made in exchange for this sacrifice. Yes, the anime cutscenes were nice as was exploring the overworld with 3D models, but the game is not handicapped significantly due to this and it is easy enough for players to watch the cut scenes on youtube as they play.
The female protagonist feels like her own character from the separate male protagonist due to unique dialogue options, different story scenarios that can change scenes entirely based on your character being a woman, and also from the new social links. The game put forth a lot of effort into this route instead of it just being the same route but with a change in gender like many other RPGs with this option, and the game is tangibly different to change motivations of characters, scenes and even social links to accommodate your character being a woman. I would even argue in some cases this is for the better such as feeling much more kinship with Yukari at the beginning of the game.
Furthermore, having all party members be social links helps to characterize them more in line with future entries and you can tell what the team learned from developing Persona 4 toward FEMC route. This is especially helpful toward characters like Junpei who are very rough in the first half of the game by giving him more positive interactions through his social link with the MC where we can find out issues about his abusive father and trying to protect the MC from a secret photographer. With Koromaru you get to have more characterization with him as opposed to just him being a cute dog, with some rather nice links involving him protecting his previous master's shrine.
Of course also leading to Shinjiro's social link to allow the player to get more time with him, and even save him if you max out his link. I think this was done surprisingly tastefully too. I was very concerned after finding out while playing that you can save Shinji, since his death sparks the final arc of Persona 3's story. However, it doesn't take away from the tragedy of his death with him being in a coma, and the game addresses it numerous ways including with Akihiko's speech now being to a Shinji who cannot wake up and even there being a greek tragedy with Shinji wanting the protagonist to live the most and continue protecting the others, only to wake up from his coma only when the protagonist perishes at the end of the game. Ironically living on past her in its own dark spin (Or only meeting you during your death in new game +). The game even considers Ken in this, with Ken praying that Shinji will wake up in the new year once he had forgiven him.
The gameplay also adds in a few additional personas, as well as skill cards that can help with the added challenge of the bonus dungeons and bosses present in Portable that offer more challenge beyond the base game.
All of this combined together, I think Portable provides a unique experience that should not be as shunned in exchange for FES, both have benefits, and for those that want more characterization for SEES and to be able to play as a female protagonist with a lesbian route, P3P is perfectly servicable if not better storywise than the original game, only lacking in its execution due to the lack of 3D models in scenes and the anime cut scenes.
Bringing to my feelings on Persona 3 as a whole. Persona 3 is not my favorite Persona game, but it laid the foundation for Persona 4. There is a lack of balance with enemies and lack of strategies with bosses which would be refined in both Persona 4 and 5. It was a bold new direction with the inclusion of social links as they were feeling out the waters and learning how to adapt them further in future games, while having some refreshing ways for the game to punish you for being dickish to your SLs that is missing from future games. The story has a lot of contrivances and has very weak human villains, but a very good final boss in the form of Nyx that I can still get chills from hearing the Fools journey with even as I'm blitzing through the boss fight easily. While the party didn't resonate with me as much as Persona 4, each character is unique and has interesting dynamics with at least one other party member with some tragic pasts that made me feel for these characters to fit into the theme of loss that is the core of Persona 3's story. This game started the UI revolution that P4 and P5 carried on, with a nice visual flair and style that is continued in the game and cut scenes with its own unique sound track that will be someone's favorite. All in all, a solid JRPG that has its flaws and I can definitely see why this is some people's favorite Persona game due to its strengths. 3.5/5
The female protagonist feels like her own character from the separate male protagonist due to unique dialogue options, different story scenarios that can change scenes entirely based on your character being a woman, and also from the new social links. The game put forth a lot of effort into this route instead of it just being the same route but with a change in gender like many other RPGs with this option, and the game is tangibly different to change motivations of characters, scenes and even social links to accommodate your character being a woman. I would even argue in some cases this is for the better such as feeling much more kinship with Yukari at the beginning of the game.
Furthermore, having all party members be social links helps to characterize them more in line with future entries and you can tell what the team learned from developing Persona 4 toward FEMC route. This is especially helpful toward characters like Junpei who are very rough in the first half of the game by giving him more positive interactions through his social link with the MC where we can find out issues about his abusive father and trying to protect the MC from a secret photographer. With Koromaru you get to have more characterization with him as opposed to just him being a cute dog, with some rather nice links involving him protecting his previous master's shrine.
Of course also leading to Shinjiro's social link to allow the player to get more time with him, and even save him if you max out his link. I think this was done surprisingly tastefully too. I was very concerned after finding out while playing that you can save Shinji, since his death sparks the final arc of Persona 3's story. However, it doesn't take away from the tragedy of his death with him being in a coma, and the game addresses it numerous ways including with Akihiko's speech now being to a Shinji who cannot wake up and even there being a greek tragedy with Shinji wanting the protagonist to live the most and continue protecting the others, only to wake up from his coma only when the protagonist perishes at the end of the game. Ironically living on past her in its own dark spin (Or only meeting you during your death in new game +). The game even considers Ken in this, with Ken praying that Shinji will wake up in the new year once he had forgiven him.
The gameplay also adds in a few additional personas, as well as skill cards that can help with the added challenge of the bonus dungeons and bosses present in Portable that offer more challenge beyond the base game.
All of this combined together, I think Portable provides a unique experience that should not be as shunned in exchange for FES, both have benefits, and for those that want more characterization for SEES and to be able to play as a female protagonist with a lesbian route, P3P is perfectly servicable if not better storywise than the original game, only lacking in its execution due to the lack of 3D models in scenes and the anime cut scenes.
Bringing to my feelings on Persona 3 as a whole. Persona 3 is not my favorite Persona game, but it laid the foundation for Persona 4. There is a lack of balance with enemies and lack of strategies with bosses which would be refined in both Persona 4 and 5. It was a bold new direction with the inclusion of social links as they were feeling out the waters and learning how to adapt them further in future games, while having some refreshing ways for the game to punish you for being dickish to your SLs that is missing from future games. The story has a lot of contrivances and has very weak human villains, but a very good final boss in the form of Nyx that I can still get chills from hearing the Fools journey with even as I'm blitzing through the boss fight easily. While the party didn't resonate with me as much as Persona 4, each character is unique and has interesting dynamics with at least one other party member with some tragic pasts that made me feel for these characters to fit into the theme of loss that is the core of Persona 3's story. This game started the UI revolution that P4 and P5 carried on, with a nice visual flair and style that is continued in the game and cut scenes with its own unique sound track that will be someone's favorite. All in all, a solid JRPG that has its flaws and I can definitely see why this is some people's favorite Persona game due to its strengths. 3.5/5
ROCKET. KNIGHT.
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes asks the important question, "What if you had an RPG with 120 party members", and answers that question to my knowledge the best that it could have given that challenging question. However, I still ask, was it worth it?
While the game boasts a large cast of mostly likeable characters where many of which end up serving a sizeable role in the story, most of these characters end up being one-dimensional save for a handful. As there is not enough time for them to change. Furthermore, most of these characters would have simply been put into NPC roles in a normal RPG if not for the fact that they now are NPCs... but also get to be in your party in a limited fashion. Still, it manages this fairly well in balancing them through having six main party slots, a support slot to allow non-combatant characters to join the party, as well as attendant slots if you don't want a plot relevant character to be in your primary party but still need to keep them around for the story. This all comes together giving a possible order of 10 party members which helps a lot in giving you space to experiment with them, and also to give them relevant party space compared to some other RPGs that attempted really large party sizes in that most of them were not able to give as much screen time and relevance as this game does even with significantly smaller casts. There are some creative ways to force the player to experiment and also to use more characters than a simple 6 from start to finish as well, which helps a lot in making you care about more than just your initial six. With so many to choose from, each player will settle into who they prefer.
The characters also come into the base building, which can be enjoyable apart from how constricting it actually is compared to how it originally appears, as all future upgrade materials are locked behind locations that you only get after completing specific chapters. Carefully keeping players "balanced" to be at about the same level for base building until they can advance the story in order to unlock more materials to expand.
This is where the major problems come in however. Pacing is all over the place, as key parts of an RPG are locked behind getting characters into your party and recruiting them to unlock things at your base of operation. Fast travel for one, is something locked at the 15 hour mark for when you unlock a character that gives you this ability, which means if you do a lot of side content before getting her, you'll be doing a ridiculous amount of backtracking, which the game points out in its story as a problem that you have to solve with this character. At which point... Why couldn't you have unlocked them much sooner? There are many aspects of the game that feel tedious and time-wasting in the same way, like the beigoma minigame that is a ripoff and worse version of Beyblade (There were WAY BETTER Beyblade games on the Gamecube and they didn't even bother to learn why those games were decent before implementing this half-assed minigame that is required to be completed for the true ending). Beigoma are rare items dropped by enemies that are required for the minigame, but you cannot collect them even from enemies that would normally drop them until you reach a certain chapter and can unlock the minigame with the two party members associated with it, meaning you have to then backtrack to get the beigomas you didn't originally get because it wasn't possible to get them. The very boring cooking minigame (That is required to do for the true ending), has long load-screens and is mostly RNG apart from selecting meals that are bland in order to appease the most characters, with a 15 minute timer you have to wait between matches before you can continue the sidequest. Star items, of which some are required to fully experience some minigames are items that randomly can spawn in shops and if played the way the game is meant to be played, are a random chance you check back on every 30 minutes (Unless you savescum which is clearly not intentional). Not to mention the atrocious load times on Switch and Playstation 4 which cause you to waste even more time as most stores require a long loading screen, most minigames require a long loading screen, fast traveling requires a long loading screen, etc. And so much more random things to get in the way of your progress and cause tedium and pointless timewasting.
Speaking of the minigames and all the sidecontent itself... It is pretty poor. The best of the games, the card game and the theater are completely optional, with the card game not even being required to be played any more than the tutorial match since unlocking the related character is done through collecting 120 cards, which is done through purchasing card packs. There is no traveling to fight card opponents, they are all your characters in the base in a drab and boring menu, and you can easily just buy as many card packs as you want to win against all of them for pitifully weak rewards that range from potions to the equivalent of phoenix downs. So there is absolutely zero incentive to play the minigame beyond it being the funner one of the lot. The theater is surprisingly dense, with a ridiculous amount of effort put into it with every character being voiced for every theater role in a goofy way that allows you to see their characters shine which makes it the most entertaining minigame in the post game... And for what? You have to earn the theater scripts by doing the tedious savescumming at shops, and you don't earn anything meaningful by doing all the plays with S-ranks. Then, that leaves the egg-racing which is one of the worst of the breeding racing minigames in RPGs I have seen, with a requirement for you to have every egg race 6 times in races that last for 2 minutes (With long load times before start and finish) to get the option to feed them, and only after they are done being fed from 6 races, can you breed them... With another egg that also did 6 races. With S-rank eggs basically being required to get the actually good items you can't just farm, that are still not that significantly good or worth it for hours of wasted time on an unfun uninteractive horse-racing minigame. What about beigoma? The game that is pointless to do early on because all your combatants will have rank 2 beigoma, which decimate your starting beigoma no matter what strategy you put into it since the game is mostly just about stats and type-match ups vs. any player input. Making it questionable why they even bother letting you do it without letting you farm beigoma ahead of time. Or how to advance the beigoma storyline you need to win matches against worthless jobbers in every city before the story beigoma characters will even give you a chance to stretch it out as much as possible (Which I remind you, is required for the true ending). What about the cooking minigame? Which is just you picking the same two safe meal options with one that you think your specific contestants will like (They probably won't even like it even if you pick something that tastes similar to their favorite foods), and then mashing the X or A button for a minute and... That's it. The main challenge comes from the RNG of which of your characters get chosen as judges. Do it 15 times while having 15 minute increments between each of them for more pointless time wasting (Which is required for the true ending). These things shouldn't have been mandatory, and more than that, more time and effort should have been put into all of them if they were going to make it into the game period. So much effort was put into the theater which I love, which could have just been put into the other minigames to make them better and more enjoyable instead of slogs.
Speaking of slogs, the gameplay: While I did enjoy the overall gameplay of the game, there was much to be left desired. Every character is viable, but certainly some will be a lot better than others, especially at different points of the game. Most characters are nearly identical apart from having maybe one unique skill on each character (If they're lucky), and none if they're unlucky. The most blessed ones have two or more unique skills, because SP is the name of the game up until the end game. Magic is nearly worthless until the end game with all magic doing pitiful damage and only being useful for healing. Until the end game where it becomes an unstoppable and overpowered force, meaning all your magic characters early on are weak, and endgame are your most busted. SP then is the game changer, where characters that have good SP skills are your champs, with the major thing to focus on being extremely powerful hero combos depending on team comp, and ignoring the ones that are useless since they do just about as much damage as a regular attack, same as early game magic. With so many characters and selecting their actions before each turn, there is some strategy and some fun ways to manipulate the system, but its still too slow. They did some smart techniques to make combat go faster, and it still isn't enough, as you'll want to be using the auto-battle through most of the game, which is not a good sign. Some of the boss fights are designed horrendously, with the worst ones at the start of the game, with one where the HP balancing felt off with one character having as much HP as mid game bosses in the second major boss fight, and the other having a complete RNG left or right choice that if you're unlucky means you have a very long drawn out fight. I really want to love the battle system, but it's poorly implemented even though it had good ideas for how to deal with having so many party members.
The game is also very buggy as of me writing. I had experienced over 20 crashes costing me progress, with 2 soft-locks on my PS4 version. With the auto-save being so slow with periods where it wouldn't autosave for 3 hours at a time, this was completely unacceptable.
Then... What's the point? I've been completely negative in this review until now, so why did I bother finishing this game? Well, primarily the presentation. The voice acting of every single character, the theater, the visuals, the animations (Albeit you can clearly see when they ran out of time with some cut scenes where the characters don't have running animations), and heart of this game kept me going. Its very pleasant to look at, to hear, and to experience in that way, and if not for that I would have stopped playing long ago. The duels while suffering the same problems as all the other minigames give cool one on one spectacle fights, same with the war scenarios which feel like you are leading armies even if it was rather slow and pretty thoughtless. As well, the story was alright.
The story is pretty generic, but with nice twists and turns, some nice political drama, and good character moments. I particularly enjoyed Perrielle through the story, and how each leader of the League of Nations were distinct in their failure against the fascistic Aldric who was a fun campy villain. My major complaint would just be the lack of commentary on some issues, while there is mention of racism against the animal folk of the game, its not really felt as much as it should be and could have been pushed more along with asking questions about the Alliance and Guardians instead of them being purely "good guys". Feels a bit too clean when we had drama of Seign overcoming his allegiances. As well... The end game feels a bit rushed, with a missing prince plotline that is mentioned but never elaborated on or seen beyond just being told it was done off screen. Similarly, at the start of the game when a villain has someone in their grasp they just let them go without question? You can feel where they ran out of time.
So, we return to that original question. "What if we had an RPG with 120 party members?" Well, the real answer is, we'd get an RPG where characters fight for screen time, at least half if not more will be required to dip out of the story and have no presence to avoid bloating, and we'll end up with a story where not very much of consequence can happen because that'd remove characters from that big 120 character selling point on the back of the box. I just don't think its worth it in the end, even if Eiyuden Chronicle did it in probably the best hypothetical way I could think of. This game isn't that bad, but the tedium and chore it is to play certainly drags it down a lot, especially with its technical problems. There is heart here, and I want to like it a lot more, but I can't bring myself to. I'm curious to see how the Suikoden series matches to this game, so I'll likely be looking at those games after playing this. All in all, a very low end 3/5.
While the game boasts a large cast of mostly likeable characters where many of which end up serving a sizeable role in the story, most of these characters end up being one-dimensional save for a handful. As there is not enough time for them to change. Furthermore, most of these characters would have simply been put into NPC roles in a normal RPG if not for the fact that they now are NPCs... but also get to be in your party in a limited fashion. Still, it manages this fairly well in balancing them through having six main party slots, a support slot to allow non-combatant characters to join the party, as well as attendant slots if you don't want a plot relevant character to be in your primary party but still need to keep them around for the story. This all comes together giving a possible order of 10 party members which helps a lot in giving you space to experiment with them, and also to give them relevant party space compared to some other RPGs that attempted really large party sizes in that most of them were not able to give as much screen time and relevance as this game does even with significantly smaller casts. There are some creative ways to force the player to experiment and also to use more characters than a simple 6 from start to finish as well, which helps a lot in making you care about more than just your initial six. With so many to choose from, each player will settle into who they prefer.
The characters also come into the base building, which can be enjoyable apart from how constricting it actually is compared to how it originally appears, as all future upgrade materials are locked behind locations that you only get after completing specific chapters. Carefully keeping players "balanced" to be at about the same level for base building until they can advance the story in order to unlock more materials to expand.
This is where the major problems come in however. Pacing is all over the place, as key parts of an RPG are locked behind getting characters into your party and recruiting them to unlock things at your base of operation. Fast travel for one, is something locked at the 15 hour mark for when you unlock a character that gives you this ability, which means if you do a lot of side content before getting her, you'll be doing a ridiculous amount of backtracking, which the game points out in its story as a problem that you have to solve with this character. At which point... Why couldn't you have unlocked them much sooner? There are many aspects of the game that feel tedious and time-wasting in the same way, like the beigoma minigame that is a ripoff and worse version of Beyblade (There were WAY BETTER Beyblade games on the Gamecube and they didn't even bother to learn why those games were decent before implementing this half-assed minigame that is required to be completed for the true ending). Beigoma are rare items dropped by enemies that are required for the minigame, but you cannot collect them even from enemies that would normally drop them until you reach a certain chapter and can unlock the minigame with the two party members associated with it, meaning you have to then backtrack to get the beigomas you didn't originally get because it wasn't possible to get them. The very boring cooking minigame (That is required to do for the true ending), has long load-screens and is mostly RNG apart from selecting meals that are bland in order to appease the most characters, with a 15 minute timer you have to wait between matches before you can continue the sidequest. Star items, of which some are required to fully experience some minigames are items that randomly can spawn in shops and if played the way the game is meant to be played, are a random chance you check back on every 30 minutes (Unless you savescum which is clearly not intentional). Not to mention the atrocious load times on Switch and Playstation 4 which cause you to waste even more time as most stores require a long loading screen, most minigames require a long loading screen, fast traveling requires a long loading screen, etc. And so much more random things to get in the way of your progress and cause tedium and pointless timewasting.
Speaking of the minigames and all the sidecontent itself... It is pretty poor. The best of the games, the card game and the theater are completely optional, with the card game not even being required to be played any more than the tutorial match since unlocking the related character is done through collecting 120 cards, which is done through purchasing card packs. There is no traveling to fight card opponents, they are all your characters in the base in a drab and boring menu, and you can easily just buy as many card packs as you want to win against all of them for pitifully weak rewards that range from potions to the equivalent of phoenix downs. So there is absolutely zero incentive to play the minigame beyond it being the funner one of the lot. The theater is surprisingly dense, with a ridiculous amount of effort put into it with every character being voiced for every theater role in a goofy way that allows you to see their characters shine which makes it the most entertaining minigame in the post game... And for what? You have to earn the theater scripts by doing the tedious savescumming at shops, and you don't earn anything meaningful by doing all the plays with S-ranks. Then, that leaves the egg-racing which is one of the worst of the breeding racing minigames in RPGs I have seen, with a requirement for you to have every egg race 6 times in races that last for 2 minutes (With long load times before start and finish) to get the option to feed them, and only after they are done being fed from 6 races, can you breed them... With another egg that also did 6 races. With S-rank eggs basically being required to get the actually good items you can't just farm, that are still not that significantly good or worth it for hours of wasted time on an unfun uninteractive horse-racing minigame. What about beigoma? The game that is pointless to do early on because all your combatants will have rank 2 beigoma, which decimate your starting beigoma no matter what strategy you put into it since the game is mostly just about stats and type-match ups vs. any player input. Making it questionable why they even bother letting you do it without letting you farm beigoma ahead of time. Or how to advance the beigoma storyline you need to win matches against worthless jobbers in every city before the story beigoma characters will even give you a chance to stretch it out as much as possible (Which I remind you, is required for the true ending). What about the cooking minigame? Which is just you picking the same two safe meal options with one that you think your specific contestants will like (They probably won't even like it even if you pick something that tastes similar to their favorite foods), and then mashing the X or A button for a minute and... That's it. The main challenge comes from the RNG of which of your characters get chosen as judges. Do it 15 times while having 15 minute increments between each of them for more pointless time wasting (Which is required for the true ending). These things shouldn't have been mandatory, and more than that, more time and effort should have been put into all of them if they were going to make it into the game period. So much effort was put into the theater which I love, which could have just been put into the other minigames to make them better and more enjoyable instead of slogs.
Speaking of slogs, the gameplay: While I did enjoy the overall gameplay of the game, there was much to be left desired. Every character is viable, but certainly some will be a lot better than others, especially at different points of the game. Most characters are nearly identical apart from having maybe one unique skill on each character (If they're lucky), and none if they're unlucky. The most blessed ones have two or more unique skills, because SP is the name of the game up until the end game. Magic is nearly worthless until the end game with all magic doing pitiful damage and only being useful for healing. Until the end game where it becomes an unstoppable and overpowered force, meaning all your magic characters early on are weak, and endgame are your most busted. SP then is the game changer, where characters that have good SP skills are your champs, with the major thing to focus on being extremely powerful hero combos depending on team comp, and ignoring the ones that are useless since they do just about as much damage as a regular attack, same as early game magic. With so many characters and selecting their actions before each turn, there is some strategy and some fun ways to manipulate the system, but its still too slow. They did some smart techniques to make combat go faster, and it still isn't enough, as you'll want to be using the auto-battle through most of the game, which is not a good sign. Some of the boss fights are designed horrendously, with the worst ones at the start of the game, with one where the HP balancing felt off with one character having as much HP as mid game bosses in the second major boss fight, and the other having a complete RNG left or right choice that if you're unlucky means you have a very long drawn out fight. I really want to love the battle system, but it's poorly implemented even though it had good ideas for how to deal with having so many party members.
The game is also very buggy as of me writing. I had experienced over 20 crashes costing me progress, with 2 soft-locks on my PS4 version. With the auto-save being so slow with periods where it wouldn't autosave for 3 hours at a time, this was completely unacceptable.
Then... What's the point? I've been completely negative in this review until now, so why did I bother finishing this game? Well, primarily the presentation. The voice acting of every single character, the theater, the visuals, the animations (Albeit you can clearly see when they ran out of time with some cut scenes where the characters don't have running animations), and heart of this game kept me going. Its very pleasant to look at, to hear, and to experience in that way, and if not for that I would have stopped playing long ago. The duels while suffering the same problems as all the other minigames give cool one on one spectacle fights, same with the war scenarios which feel like you are leading armies even if it was rather slow and pretty thoughtless. As well, the story was alright.
The story is pretty generic, but with nice twists and turns, some nice political drama, and good character moments. I particularly enjoyed Perrielle through the story, and how each leader of the League of Nations were distinct in their failure against the fascistic Aldric who was a fun campy villain. My major complaint would just be the lack of commentary on some issues, while there is mention of racism against the animal folk of the game, its not really felt as much as it should be and could have been pushed more along with asking questions about the Alliance and Guardians instead of them being purely "good guys". Feels a bit too clean when we had drama of Seign overcoming his allegiances. As well... The end game feels a bit rushed, with a missing prince plotline that is mentioned but never elaborated on or seen beyond just being told it was done off screen. Similarly, at the start of the game when a villain has someone in their grasp they just let them go without question? You can feel where they ran out of time.
So, we return to that original question. "What if we had an RPG with 120 party members?" Well, the real answer is, we'd get an RPG where characters fight for screen time, at least half if not more will be required to dip out of the story and have no presence to avoid bloating, and we'll end up with a story where not very much of consequence can happen because that'd remove characters from that big 120 character selling point on the back of the box. I just don't think its worth it in the end, even if Eiyuden Chronicle did it in probably the best hypothetical way I could think of. This game isn't that bad, but the tedium and chore it is to play certainly drags it down a lot, especially with its technical problems. There is heart here, and I want to like it a lot more, but I can't bring myself to. I'm curious to see how the Suikoden series matches to this game, so I'll likely be looking at those games after playing this. All in all, a very low end 3/5.
2019
This review contains spoilers
Persona 5 Royal is a confusing expansion game. For my thoughts of Persona 5 Vanilla, you can read my other backloggd review for it as ultimately Royal has not changed my mind about the original and in fact had only reinforced my views.
Royal is an interesting expansion, as all the gameplay mechanics that were added, from new locations to have more events to do during the scheduled free time, the bonus free time events, the new battle mechanics including updated gun utility, emergencies in the Velvet room, expanded baton passes, and more are all welcome changes and I think the game is better for them. However, the story additions are hit or miss.
The new scenes added into the base game are some of the weakest in terms of writing I have seen in the series. With a few exceptions, these only highlight and show how weak the relationship between the Phantom Thieves is and only highlights the core flaw in how little chemistry they have together as a group. Notable examples come up with Yusuke and Ryuji's team attack conversation, and Haru and Makoto's team attack conversations feeling like they were written by robots considering how awkward and clunky they felt for introducing their show time attacks. There is still an exception for this, such as the barbecue cleanup event near the start of the game, but largely all of the added in scenes in Royal into the base game are very weak.
That being said, the writing toward the end game content and Maruki was incredible. Maruki works as a perfect antagonist to the Phantom Thieves, being the logical extreme of their actions in the Metaverse. To be able to condemn Maruki, you must first condemn the actions of the Phantom Thieves, and to believe the Phantom Thieves are correct is to believe that Maruki is correct in their forms of vigilantism. Maruki is highly sympathetic and an excellent morally complex villain who when standing next to the laughably evil villain of Shido in the game fits in well. Everything involving Maruki also gives me hope for future Persona games, such as bringing back the ideas of Personas going berserk, having Personas communicate with their user like Sumire, having a Persona user in control of their own palace/metaverse/TV World, and even expanding on ideas about unique powers to wild cards revolving around the Metaverse. These ideas were all excellent and make me excited for potential story beats in the future of P6.
All of that being said, while the narrative writing toward Maruki was excellent, it did not fit into the rest of the game's themes of rebellion. To say that you are rebelling against Maruki's world is a bit of a stretch and feels out of place as opposed to seeing him as a rival since he is using the same methods that the Phantom Thieves use. Yaldaboath by comparison as a final boss encapsulates those themes of rebellion best, and Maruki being after him weakens those themes a lot. Maruki in the end then only feels like side content, or REALLY GOOD DLC, as opposed to being an organic and natural part of Persona 5.
As well, all of the character writing is incredibly weak aside from Maruki, and some new additions toward Akechi in his social link and third semester. Sumire while being charming and having an excellent narrative in the story, has very weak character writing along with the rest of the Phantom Thieves. This is very disconcerning considering that Persona is a series that is founded on the ideas of character, character growth, accepting oneself, relationships, etc. that are all cores of the series. So, while I have confidence now that the new content in Persona 6 following this new writer will likely have an excellent narrative and story, I am very concerned and am looking toward Persona 6 with trepidation due to its weak character writing.
All in all, Persona 5 Royal is something I would say is worth playing if you have already played and enjoyed Persona 5 Original. However, nothing new added here is going to change your mind on the original game. If you already dislike the Phantom Thieves and the narrative, then this game will not change your mind, and the tacked on DLC of Maruki while being excellent does not feel naturally incorporated into the game. Though, if you already liked Persona 5 original, the new content added will be something you enjoy greatly, and Maruki will simply be a side dish that is ordered to help with the rest of the main dish. I am not sure I would recommend this as your first Persona game if you had not played any of the games before.
Amazing art, mediocre story with some highlight moments, excellent gameplay, ok characters, fantastic soundtrack, and an overall style that is hard to compete with. 4 / 5.
Royal is an interesting expansion, as all the gameplay mechanics that were added, from new locations to have more events to do during the scheduled free time, the bonus free time events, the new battle mechanics including updated gun utility, emergencies in the Velvet room, expanded baton passes, and more are all welcome changes and I think the game is better for them. However, the story additions are hit or miss.
The new scenes added into the base game are some of the weakest in terms of writing I have seen in the series. With a few exceptions, these only highlight and show how weak the relationship between the Phantom Thieves is and only highlights the core flaw in how little chemistry they have together as a group. Notable examples come up with Yusuke and Ryuji's team attack conversation, and Haru and Makoto's team attack conversations feeling like they were written by robots considering how awkward and clunky they felt for introducing their show time attacks. There is still an exception for this, such as the barbecue cleanup event near the start of the game, but largely all of the added in scenes in Royal into the base game are very weak.
That being said, the writing toward the end game content and Maruki was incredible. Maruki works as a perfect antagonist to the Phantom Thieves, being the logical extreme of their actions in the Metaverse. To be able to condemn Maruki, you must first condemn the actions of the Phantom Thieves, and to believe the Phantom Thieves are correct is to believe that Maruki is correct in their forms of vigilantism. Maruki is highly sympathetic and an excellent morally complex villain who when standing next to the laughably evil villain of Shido in the game fits in well. Everything involving Maruki also gives me hope for future Persona games, such as bringing back the ideas of Personas going berserk, having Personas communicate with their user like Sumire, having a Persona user in control of their own palace/metaverse/TV World, and even expanding on ideas about unique powers to wild cards revolving around the Metaverse. These ideas were all excellent and make me excited for potential story beats in the future of P6.
All of that being said, while the narrative writing toward Maruki was excellent, it did not fit into the rest of the game's themes of rebellion. To say that you are rebelling against Maruki's world is a bit of a stretch and feels out of place as opposed to seeing him as a rival since he is using the same methods that the Phantom Thieves use. Yaldaboath by comparison as a final boss encapsulates those themes of rebellion best, and Maruki being after him weakens those themes a lot. Maruki in the end then only feels like side content, or REALLY GOOD DLC, as opposed to being an organic and natural part of Persona 5.
As well, all of the character writing is incredibly weak aside from Maruki, and some new additions toward Akechi in his social link and third semester. Sumire while being charming and having an excellent narrative in the story, has very weak character writing along with the rest of the Phantom Thieves. This is very disconcerning considering that Persona is a series that is founded on the ideas of character, character growth, accepting oneself, relationships, etc. that are all cores of the series. So, while I have confidence now that the new content in Persona 6 following this new writer will likely have an excellent narrative and story, I am very concerned and am looking toward Persona 6 with trepidation due to its weak character writing.
All in all, Persona 5 Royal is something I would say is worth playing if you have already played and enjoyed Persona 5 Original. However, nothing new added here is going to change your mind on the original game. If you already dislike the Phantom Thieves and the narrative, then this game will not change your mind, and the tacked on DLC of Maruki while being excellent does not feel naturally incorporated into the game. Though, if you already liked Persona 5 original, the new content added will be something you enjoy greatly, and Maruki will simply be a side dish that is ordered to help with the rest of the main dish. I am not sure I would recommend this as your first Persona game if you had not played any of the games before.
Amazing art, mediocre story with some highlight moments, excellent gameplay, ok characters, fantastic soundtrack, and an overall style that is hard to compete with. 4 / 5.
Persona 1 is ambitious. It is a game that had a lot of good ideas for a JRPG, that are still in games to this day and particularly in its own series. Though, the execution of those ideas leaves a lot to be desired.
There are two routes of the game, the original SEBEC in the original PS1 release, as well as Snow Queen Quest which is available in the PSP version. The former presents a decent story with some fun ideas and a fun cast depending on who you had in your party. It presents a typical JRPG adventure as one would expect with twists and turns and eventually fighting godlike beings. Snow Queen Quest by comparison feels like a romhack that while somehow made by the same team, feels a lot more meanspirited, and is a bit of an experimental mess that didn't result in much good.
Characterwise, Persona 1's cast is fine enough, albeit they are a rather typical cast of japanese high schoolers who have a few quirks. The most memorable probably being Mark as he strays the furthest from the anime archetype that many of the other characters end up being based off of. Most of these characters do have moments that are interesting and stray from typical writing, but most of the time they act like their generic counterparts in other media in the game itself. In many cases this is understandable, as most party members end up being optional in each route with the player being capable of having different teams depending on their choices. This does often effect group conversations, as often times the most optional of these characters such as Reiji has little to add in group conversations and otherwise feels standalone as opposed to being part of the party. However, characters specific to each route like Maki, Mark and Nanjo in SEBEC have a lot of interesting dialogue together and fun dynamics as a group which is what I often crave from in a party.
Story-wise, more than anything the ideas the game presents are interesting, but their execution can be quite lacking. I found the major villain of SEBEC to be rather bland and unappealing, with Maki more than taking the show. The storyline and themes it presents are quite interesting and can be seen to continue forward in future Persona games. Snow Queen Quest I do not think was handled well by any means, and often feels mean-spirited toward the antagonists either in their depiction, or criticisms of their lifestyles which can oftentimes feel sexist considering who wrote them in the first place.
Before moving on from story, I do want to note the absolute disgusting and uncomfortable topic of Tamaki who Tadashi based off of a crush and forced to reciprocate his love in game. This sort of thing has happened to me outside of this review, and I want to note how disgusting and unflattering it is to have a creator put a version of you into a game purely to romance with their self-insert when you had no interest in them irl. It is very uncomfortable and while a minor part of the story, is significant enough in SQQ to bring up as a large negative.
Now to the gameplay, Persona 1 uses a grid style for its gameplay, and despite what others say, I had enjoyed it quite a bit. Changing formation to give certain party members more reach and allow for their different persona skills could be enjoyable for experimentation and the actual statistics for combat worked excellently. Different weapon variety and different preferences for personas also helped distinguish each party member beyond merely their statistics, making each feel wholly unique. With all that being said, there are far too many elemental types. All physical weapons count as different categories, and there are all the various elements from every single SMT game prior, as well as tech, rush, and other elements that were baffling. Too many elements in fact that bogged down the experimentation aspect of SMT games. Why bother doing a hundred experiments to determine which of the 30 different element types the enemy is weak to, when you can just physically attack them where that works 90% of the time where then you'll have their log put in and always know their weaknesses and resistances from that point onward? It is redundant and boring and also trains players to be really bad with using skills. On top of this, is the fact that balancing toward enemies is really bad, especially toward late game enemies. In an attempt to justify the ridiculous number of elements, the game decides to also give enemies a ridiculous number of repels, absorbs, and more. This makes battling extremely tedious and needlessly unforgiving as it is very common to get wiped from enemies who repel all elements that you are not aware of until you have already selected all your party's attacks. Especially when meeting mixed groups of enemies. Since all your party members need to have their action prepared prior to getting to see them all play out, you can't adjust after seeing a repel or absorb until AFTER every party member has already attacked and at that point it is typically too late and you will be left on death's door for the enemy to wipe you out.
This now will get us into the overall difficulty of the game. Overall, both SEBEC and SQQ are not very long. However, the game artificially expands them both by making experience gain low in comparison to the enemies you are fighting, has far too many enemies that can instant kill your party at numerous points to reload saves, as well as by adding in far too many convoluted systems to leveling up. There is your character's character level, their persona level, as well as the Persona they currently have equipped with a rank. To level up your character, you must participate in combat, otherwise your experience will be lower. If one party member is overperforming since you are in a zone where their persona performs very well, they can easily become an EXP sponge and drain all resources from the rest of your party for the forseeable future. Then, there is persona levels, which determines the level of personas your characters can equip, which is SUPPOSED to go up faster and take up more experience away from your character level when you use your personas skills... But often times, this is not the case, and even using your persona's skills to wipe out all enemies will STILL result in your persona level experience being lower than your character level experience for that encounter. The actual numbers on this are strange and rarely make sense making grinding even more tedious. Speaking of tedious, lets talk about persona ranks. Every Persona in the game has a rank from 1-8, with 8 being their max. To level up your persona's rank, you must have them equipped, and you must be using their skills in combat. However, this experience is a single point, for EACH USE OF SKILL. Meaning, to max a Persona out to rank 8, where they have their full stats unlocked as well as actually having all their spells, you have to use that singular Persona upwards to 226 times if your character is not 10 LEVELS HIGHER THAN THE PERSONA. This adds another level of tedium as some personas don't even get good skills until they reach rank 5, which will be painful to grind out until then. All of these come together to make a tedious grinding fest that while it can feel rewarding due to the results you get from it, rarely does due to the game's balancing and usually only for a few rare personas. Combat encounters lose their charm after so many of them, and they are so poorly balanced. Boss fights either are a test of how much you have grinded up, especially with the final bosses, or absolute push-overs that require no strategy.
This takes us to the next level of tedium, the maps. I do not understand how these maps came into existence. I do not know who made these maps. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by a 60s AI running on a IBM computer with 1KB processor that skips every 2 seconds, or a blind monkey with carpal tunnel scribbling on a piece of paper. These maps make no sense. For one, there are so many dead ends that it is non-sensical. Dungeon exploration is done in first person, and unlike later games that also do first person dungeon exploration (INCLUDING OTHER SMT GAMES), there are no chests or items on the dungeon maps. Meaning any dead end you go down, is utterly and pathetically useless. In fact, its worse than useless as the high encounter rate means that every dead end you go down will waste time with another random encounter. If you see a dead end, don't 100% complete the map, ignore it since they are actually wasting your time. There are so many of these, and the maps have no rhyme or reason in how they are designed that I am in awe of their terribleness. In a sense, perhaps being charitable we could say the developers wanted to make the dungeons feel unrealistic, strange and Euclidean to reflect the game's dream and otherworldly aspects like Alice in Wonderland. I refuse this as they are not even designed well in that sense since they are still absolutely incomprehensible. The better assumption is to assume they are this bad solely to sell game guides and to also pad out the game longer than its short runtime in order to get players playing longer and make the game sound longer.
My final note on gameplay is that the isometric view in rooms that is iconic to this game to give the sprites for the characters more expression also had really bad controls due to the fact that it was mapped funny to the directional buttons. Pressing down moved you left, pressing up moved you right and it took a lot of time to get used to this. You will eventually get used to it, but it certainly wasn't the best design decision.
All of this is to say, that this game had good ideas, but their execution was terrible in most senses. You can see these ideas further evolved, refined, and made much better in future Persona games.
I do not have much to say about the music, as I am a bit tone deaf, but the music was often good from the original PS1 soundtrack that I was listening to while playing the PSP version. Albeit, some tracks feel very out of place in certain scenes, particularly with the SEBEC ending sequence bafflingly choosing the goofy soundtrack during a very emotional sequence. The art was good, and conveyed the characters well especially in promotional material which has had its style used for every subsequent Persona game through future artists new interpretations. The pixel art wasn't outstanding compared to other games that came out at the same time, but it was serviceable and gave an idea of what each thing you were looking at was supposed to be.
Looking at all of this together, and coming back to my experience with the game... I respect Persona 1 for what it was able to accomplish and what it was on the Playstation 1. It was a truly unique game and it kickstarted one of my favorite franchises while having some excellent ideas that have been brought forward to many modern games. That being said, I do not think anyone should go back to play this game. For all of the numerous issues I mentioned above, I do not think it is worth coming back to this game compared to other JRPGs on the PS1 and if you are really curious you should watch a playthrough on Youtube instead. It has aged poorly, what it offers in story has been done better in other games since, and while being enjoyable at the start of the game especially if you have the means of speeding up the gameplay by fastforwarding combat, does overstay its welcome even in just the SEBEC route, let alone playing the clunky Snow Queen Quest route that I feel bogs down the game even further. Despite its numerous flaws and how I do not think anyone should play this game in the modern day, for its legacy, Persona 1 for the time it was released gets a 3/5 for the contributions it made to the medium.
There are two routes of the game, the original SEBEC in the original PS1 release, as well as Snow Queen Quest which is available in the PSP version. The former presents a decent story with some fun ideas and a fun cast depending on who you had in your party. It presents a typical JRPG adventure as one would expect with twists and turns and eventually fighting godlike beings. Snow Queen Quest by comparison feels like a romhack that while somehow made by the same team, feels a lot more meanspirited, and is a bit of an experimental mess that didn't result in much good.
Characterwise, Persona 1's cast is fine enough, albeit they are a rather typical cast of japanese high schoolers who have a few quirks. The most memorable probably being Mark as he strays the furthest from the anime archetype that many of the other characters end up being based off of. Most of these characters do have moments that are interesting and stray from typical writing, but most of the time they act like their generic counterparts in other media in the game itself. In many cases this is understandable, as most party members end up being optional in each route with the player being capable of having different teams depending on their choices. This does often effect group conversations, as often times the most optional of these characters such as Reiji has little to add in group conversations and otherwise feels standalone as opposed to being part of the party. However, characters specific to each route like Maki, Mark and Nanjo in SEBEC have a lot of interesting dialogue together and fun dynamics as a group which is what I often crave from in a party.
Story-wise, more than anything the ideas the game presents are interesting, but their execution can be quite lacking. I found the major villain of SEBEC to be rather bland and unappealing, with Maki more than taking the show. The storyline and themes it presents are quite interesting and can be seen to continue forward in future Persona games. Snow Queen Quest I do not think was handled well by any means, and often feels mean-spirited toward the antagonists either in their depiction, or criticisms of their lifestyles which can oftentimes feel sexist considering who wrote them in the first place.
Before moving on from story, I do want to note the absolute disgusting and uncomfortable topic of Tamaki who Tadashi based off of a crush and forced to reciprocate his love in game. This sort of thing has happened to me outside of this review, and I want to note how disgusting and unflattering it is to have a creator put a version of you into a game purely to romance with their self-insert when you had no interest in them irl. It is very uncomfortable and while a minor part of the story, is significant enough in SQQ to bring up as a large negative.
Now to the gameplay, Persona 1 uses a grid style for its gameplay, and despite what others say, I had enjoyed it quite a bit. Changing formation to give certain party members more reach and allow for their different persona skills could be enjoyable for experimentation and the actual statistics for combat worked excellently. Different weapon variety and different preferences for personas also helped distinguish each party member beyond merely their statistics, making each feel wholly unique. With all that being said, there are far too many elemental types. All physical weapons count as different categories, and there are all the various elements from every single SMT game prior, as well as tech, rush, and other elements that were baffling. Too many elements in fact that bogged down the experimentation aspect of SMT games. Why bother doing a hundred experiments to determine which of the 30 different element types the enemy is weak to, when you can just physically attack them where that works 90% of the time where then you'll have their log put in and always know their weaknesses and resistances from that point onward? It is redundant and boring and also trains players to be really bad with using skills. On top of this, is the fact that balancing toward enemies is really bad, especially toward late game enemies. In an attempt to justify the ridiculous number of elements, the game decides to also give enemies a ridiculous number of repels, absorbs, and more. This makes battling extremely tedious and needlessly unforgiving as it is very common to get wiped from enemies who repel all elements that you are not aware of until you have already selected all your party's attacks. Especially when meeting mixed groups of enemies. Since all your party members need to have their action prepared prior to getting to see them all play out, you can't adjust after seeing a repel or absorb until AFTER every party member has already attacked and at that point it is typically too late and you will be left on death's door for the enemy to wipe you out.
This now will get us into the overall difficulty of the game. Overall, both SEBEC and SQQ are not very long. However, the game artificially expands them both by making experience gain low in comparison to the enemies you are fighting, has far too many enemies that can instant kill your party at numerous points to reload saves, as well as by adding in far too many convoluted systems to leveling up. There is your character's character level, their persona level, as well as the Persona they currently have equipped with a rank. To level up your character, you must participate in combat, otherwise your experience will be lower. If one party member is overperforming since you are in a zone where their persona performs very well, they can easily become an EXP sponge and drain all resources from the rest of your party for the forseeable future. Then, there is persona levels, which determines the level of personas your characters can equip, which is SUPPOSED to go up faster and take up more experience away from your character level when you use your personas skills... But often times, this is not the case, and even using your persona's skills to wipe out all enemies will STILL result in your persona level experience being lower than your character level experience for that encounter. The actual numbers on this are strange and rarely make sense making grinding even more tedious. Speaking of tedious, lets talk about persona ranks. Every Persona in the game has a rank from 1-8, with 8 being their max. To level up your persona's rank, you must have them equipped, and you must be using their skills in combat. However, this experience is a single point, for EACH USE OF SKILL. Meaning, to max a Persona out to rank 8, where they have their full stats unlocked as well as actually having all their spells, you have to use that singular Persona upwards to 226 times if your character is not 10 LEVELS HIGHER THAN THE PERSONA. This adds another level of tedium as some personas don't even get good skills until they reach rank 5, which will be painful to grind out until then. All of these come together to make a tedious grinding fest that while it can feel rewarding due to the results you get from it, rarely does due to the game's balancing and usually only for a few rare personas. Combat encounters lose their charm after so many of them, and they are so poorly balanced. Boss fights either are a test of how much you have grinded up, especially with the final bosses, or absolute push-overs that require no strategy.
This takes us to the next level of tedium, the maps. I do not understand how these maps came into existence. I do not know who made these maps. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by a 60s AI running on a IBM computer with 1KB processor that skips every 2 seconds, or a blind monkey with carpal tunnel scribbling on a piece of paper. These maps make no sense. For one, there are so many dead ends that it is non-sensical. Dungeon exploration is done in first person, and unlike later games that also do first person dungeon exploration (INCLUDING OTHER SMT GAMES), there are no chests or items on the dungeon maps. Meaning any dead end you go down, is utterly and pathetically useless. In fact, its worse than useless as the high encounter rate means that every dead end you go down will waste time with another random encounter. If you see a dead end, don't 100% complete the map, ignore it since they are actually wasting your time. There are so many of these, and the maps have no rhyme or reason in how they are designed that I am in awe of their terribleness. In a sense, perhaps being charitable we could say the developers wanted to make the dungeons feel unrealistic, strange and Euclidean to reflect the game's dream and otherworldly aspects like Alice in Wonderland. I refuse this as they are not even designed well in that sense since they are still absolutely incomprehensible. The better assumption is to assume they are this bad solely to sell game guides and to also pad out the game longer than its short runtime in order to get players playing longer and make the game sound longer.
My final note on gameplay is that the isometric view in rooms that is iconic to this game to give the sprites for the characters more expression also had really bad controls due to the fact that it was mapped funny to the directional buttons. Pressing down moved you left, pressing up moved you right and it took a lot of time to get used to this. You will eventually get used to it, but it certainly wasn't the best design decision.
All of this is to say, that this game had good ideas, but their execution was terrible in most senses. You can see these ideas further evolved, refined, and made much better in future Persona games.
I do not have much to say about the music, as I am a bit tone deaf, but the music was often good from the original PS1 soundtrack that I was listening to while playing the PSP version. Albeit, some tracks feel very out of place in certain scenes, particularly with the SEBEC ending sequence bafflingly choosing the goofy soundtrack during a very emotional sequence. The art was good, and conveyed the characters well especially in promotional material which has had its style used for every subsequent Persona game through future artists new interpretations. The pixel art wasn't outstanding compared to other games that came out at the same time, but it was serviceable and gave an idea of what each thing you were looking at was supposed to be.
Looking at all of this together, and coming back to my experience with the game... I respect Persona 1 for what it was able to accomplish and what it was on the Playstation 1. It was a truly unique game and it kickstarted one of my favorite franchises while having some excellent ideas that have been brought forward to many modern games. That being said, I do not think anyone should go back to play this game. For all of the numerous issues I mentioned above, I do not think it is worth coming back to this game compared to other JRPGs on the PS1 and if you are really curious you should watch a playthrough on Youtube instead. It has aged poorly, what it offers in story has been done better in other games since, and while being enjoyable at the start of the game especially if you have the means of speeding up the gameplay by fastforwarding combat, does overstay its welcome even in just the SEBEC route, let alone playing the clunky Snow Queen Quest route that I feel bogs down the game even further. Despite its numerous flaws and how I do not think anyone should play this game in the modern day, for its legacy, Persona 1 for the time it was released gets a 3/5 for the contributions it made to the medium.
This review contains spoilers
It is quite funny that Persona 2: Innocent Sin features so much to do with rumors, because there are so many rumors about the game itself. Going into this game I was given a completely wrong impression of the game that I was to be playing, and in a sense that both led me open to be disappointed numerous times, while also being pleasantly surprised by many factors.
To begin, the gameplay of Persona 2 is drastically improved from Persona 1. While Persona 2 clearly is still experimental just like its predecessor, many gameplay elements took away from the tedium of playing that Persona 1 had. The isometric exploration has been completely fixed with the inclusion of diagonal movement and the ability to spin the camera. Dungeon exploration was changed to these isometric maps as well, making navigation much easier than the first person perspective. Dungeon maps were designed by a human being this time, and while some can be a bit grating, especially in timed parts of the game with a real clock, there was nothing here I would say was as offensive as Persona 1's maps, especially with the inclusion of chests on the overworld meaning checking dead ends could be rewarding. The persona rank mechanic was made slightly less tedious by having some personas have naturally faster growth rates compared to others, while still including the rule about that growth rate being even faster if you are ten levels higher than the persona. However, persona levels and party experience not being evenly shared were completely removed and for the better. Obtaining cards is easier since you collect arcana cards that can then be used to summon the demon of your choice, but admittedly removes all fusion mechanics beyond adding cards into a summon to make a persona fundamentally different. This removes the fun of fusion, but with the level of tedium from Persona 1, I understand the change as it is here until future Persona games bring back fusion into a more enjoyable experience like other SMT games.
The actual combat becomes a lot closer to what fans are familiar with in future SMT titles as well as future Persona titles, though rather than have a press turn function, the combat is focused mostly on fusion. The character's bonds in this game are the focus and this comes in through fusion attacks which combine different persona moves to get sometimes good results, and also group negotiation with demons to allow your party to cooperate to convince demons to lend you their cards. There is no longer any grid system which I found disappointing as I had enjoyed it, and instead it follows a more typical way of battling according to attacks always being able to target all enemies regardless of location. Elements were balanced much better and weaknesses, repels, and nullifications were much less common for enemies as well as personas making the game of finding enemy weaknesses to still be enjoyable. There wasn't enough justification for aiming for weaknesses instead of just attacking with your best attack that did neutral damage however, and as such the combat often just ended up being spamming your favorite persona's attack. With an auto-battle function, the game can very often play itself. This would be less of a problem, but this game is quite easy, and requires little strategy with few bosses offering much challenge. Furthermore, the experience gain, and the amount of encounters is still very high. This makes exploration take very long periods of time and I can say that this game plays much better with a fast forward function nowadays to fast forward through the otherwise slower combat. I overall did enjoy it, but mostly as a mindless grinding game where I was strategically planning my next persona summons, who would they be assigned to, and so forth. The economy also gets completely shattered later on with money being so easily available that you would be a fool not to buy 99 beads and 99 chewing souls which feels necessary in the last dungeon.
Onto the characters and story. Persona 2's introduction is fantastic. There is a great introduction to the characters of Lisa, Eikichi, Maya and Yukino through the rather quick paced plot. The idea of rumors being utilized and coming true along with people's wishes being granted at the cost of others is an intriguing and interesting plot. At many points, this is played in really clever and fun ways that play with expectations. The rumor mechanic also plays into gameplay though it is a rather minor part of the game in my opinion and could have been realized in a much more full way.
The story is willing to take dark turns with serial arsonists burning a man to death in front of you, as well as seeing characters be forgotten by their friends and family beyond persona users who can still perceive them. It brings up a twisted mentality for the villain Joker who sees dreams as something that can be a burden on those unready to realize them. The masked circle is a compelling group of antagonists and led by Joker leads to some very diverse and unique objectives and settings to defeat them.
Up until this point, the character bonds also are quite well handled, I particularly really enjoyed Eikichi and Maya who always had fun banter with each other and Lisa. Along with Yukino feeling a bit like an outsider beyond her bond with Maya, but still having deep connections to the Persona 1 cast. I could definitely see how this party dynamic would be used to influence Persona 4's, and I can see how this cast can be people's favorites just like future games as some people will resonate with this cast more.
This is until the halfway point of the game. At this point of the game, Innocent Sin takes a nosedive. Once you discover the secret of the main characters' amnesia and the motivations for Joker/Jun as an antagonist, I lost a great deal of suspension of disbelief. There is so much wrong with Jun's motivations. For one, he is trying to torture and kill the main party because of the perceived murder of Maya, yet Jun unlike Lisa, didn't look into the situation at the shrine a single time to find out that Maya was still alive basing this all on assumptions. Despite knowing who Tatsuya Sudou is, and how he is different from Tatsuya Suou, he immeidately believes that it is Suou's fault, even though he also knows that Sudou is a serial arsonist and even has him in the Masked Circle as one of his allies who is burning people alive and laying bombs around the city... On top of this, he also starts up the nazi rumors at this point, which were conspiracy theories written by his nazi sympathizer father (Who is not chastized at all for having written nazi propoganda). This all leading into an end of the world plot where Jun raises the city into the sky in order to bring about Xibalba to wipe out humanity to bring about an 'evolution'. This is mostly handwaved away with all the characters (Except maybe Tatsuya if you choose to play him as not forgiving Jun) forgiving Jun in an instant and mostly blaming it all on Nyarlothotep. Though, through numerous dialogue spots in the game, we find out that Jun was fully aware of what he was doing this entire time even without Nyarlathotep's influence. To me, this jumps the shark dramatically.
To expound on this, this is where we start dealing with character's shadows and I found most of them to be out of character or out of no where reveals that felt like shock value just like the nazis. Yukino reveals that she sleeps around despite there being no evidence that she would even think of doing this in Persona 1, and all the events of P2 where she seems faithful to her new lover, and in the 'bad' scene where you have Yukino not present to confront her shadow, she kisses Anna in a predatory way only pushing negative stereotypes about bi women sleeping around. With Lisa, there was absolutely no hint or clue that she had done drugs or swindled old men, which is baffling considering how much random dialogue we get in other scenes and locations. Yet not a single clue toward this. I would have been satisfied if we had an old man NPC comment about recognizing Lisa in one of the many store stops, but this isn't the case. It could be argued Lisa was doing a relatively harmless drug like marijuana, but the dialogue suggests something of a more extreme nature which again wasn't shown in any way through the story. Having known people who were negatively effected by drugs and drug addiction through my life this type of hamfisted shoving into a story I dislike greatly. Eikichi's isn't too offensive, but again conflicts with lines he had in stores where he admits the narcissism is an act and he regularly talks poorly about himself, only for his shadow to push this idea that he is entirely narcissistic. Though, this mostly was for Miyabi who was the more tragic character in this with her plotline being toward her being overweight and the almost shame she has for her self for it (Which I find offensive when her weight loss wasn't undone in the ending, undermining Eikichi's unconditional love for her). Tatsuya's is nice as it finally gives some dialogue to him when he's otherwise almost mute for the entire story, but wasn't something I'd comment much on.
Also pushing to a plot contrivance where Yukino loses her Persona to Jun, when Jun just could have gotten a new persona from numerous other ways. It seems like a weird way to force her out of the story when she could have just gone to fight with the rest of the Persona 1 cast seen at Tony's to help out the P2 cast in the background.
All of these plot points end up being very shallow for the most part and feel like a low point for the entire game.
Leading to the ending which starts to actually pick up again. Despite how far the shark was jumped and how my suspension of disbelief was blown, the sincere friendship I felt between the main cast had a lot of emotional beats that I enjoyed. Even leading to the ending having a rather beautiful and melancholic end, where Maya dies in a tragic way which distracts the party long enough for Nyarlathotep to destroy the world. There, given the choice by Philemon a god that was all but having a contest with Nyarlathotep with you as pawns to reverse Maya's death by forgetting all the events of the game. It is a tragic end that brings toward the memory plotline in a really sweet way, especially upon seeing the epilogue where the characters still end up being brought together despite their lack of shared memories. Giving the option to punch Philemon for using you as pawns is also satisfying.
This leads into my overall feelings for the story. I overall think that all the shock value moments were completely unnecessary and detracted from this game. All of the shadows and nazis could be removed, and replaced with more screen time for the Masked Circle and I think this game would be much more effective as a story. Furthermore, from all the rumors I had heard going into this story about Persona 2 having the best LGBT+ representation, I was greatly disappointed. Yukino shows really negative stereotypes toward bi women, and as do the two trans NPCs in the game with a trans woman being seen as disgusting by Eikichi before becoming vain and joining the villains, and the other is a trans man flashing their genitals to Tatsuya and Maya in a public store. Leading us finally to Jun and Tatsuya. For its time, Jun being gay was a standout, but ultimately I was very unsatisfied with its implementation. I think that Jun and Tatsuya's relationship has a good set up with their past and is cute, however Jun's design is based off of stereotypes towards gay men being effeminate and particularly uses a lot of Freud's outdated and negative theories toward gay men being narcissistic which is evident by the game talks about Jun being Tatsuya's shadow and resembling him greatly using direct wording that Freud would. Ultimately this only adds to a single line of dialogue where Lisa hardly believes Tatsuya is serious and still plans to steal Tatsuya away anyway, a line of dialogue where Jun asks Tatsuya out to visit a restaurant with him, and finally their ability to hold hands in demon negotiations. I understand that this was a big deal for its time, and can understand why so many people who find interest in this considering the lack of content in 1999, however the game seems to treat it very poorly with the end game having Lisa kiss Tatsuya no matter who he chose, and also having a star-crossed lovers ending sequence with Maya even if you chose to pick Jun as your romantic partner. Jun gets nothing like this in the ending, which is incredibly disappointing and shows that he wasn't seen in the same light as Lisa and Maya at the time of the game's release. I am happy that there is at least this much, but I hope that I expressed why by no means I think that this game should be recommended for its LGBT+ content since its overall negative. The game has other merits to recommend it that I hope I have outlined in my review, but LGBT+ content, as well as the mishandled controversial topics before I mentioned are not.
The art of this game is very good, and I can see easily how this art direction carried forward to all future mainline titles. The increased number of character portraits allows for more expression in the game than in P1, and their expressiveness is honestly very impressive. Many faces either had me laugh out loud, or understand completely the pain the characters were going through. The spritework was also improved with the pixel art in the game, allowing models to move more fluidly, more animations, and also more detailed demons and personas despite each one being modeled in the four diagonal directions for combat. The music was stellar from what I could tell, and I loved the style of this game.
This all leading to my final conclusion of this game. Persona 2: Innocent Sin is plagued with rumors. People who have played very little of this game will make grandiose statements that will never live up to expectations, while some of its long term fans cannot possibly hope to express its strengths in a meaningful way without dulling the listener. Do not buy into the hype or negativity surrounding this game, you have to experience it yourself to understand what this game accomplishes and what it fails in since the rumors surrounding it will not give you a good idea of what you are in for (Though please play it with a speedup option to fast forward combat). This game both heavily inspired future Persona games, while also being its wholly own thing. It has high highs, and at times offensive low lows. It is a very experimental JRPG that both took confident steps forward, while also stumbling terribly at some portions. Persona 2: Innocent Sin gets a 3.5/5.
To begin, the gameplay of Persona 2 is drastically improved from Persona 1. While Persona 2 clearly is still experimental just like its predecessor, many gameplay elements took away from the tedium of playing that Persona 1 had. The isometric exploration has been completely fixed with the inclusion of diagonal movement and the ability to spin the camera. Dungeon exploration was changed to these isometric maps as well, making navigation much easier than the first person perspective. Dungeon maps were designed by a human being this time, and while some can be a bit grating, especially in timed parts of the game with a real clock, there was nothing here I would say was as offensive as Persona 1's maps, especially with the inclusion of chests on the overworld meaning checking dead ends could be rewarding. The persona rank mechanic was made slightly less tedious by having some personas have naturally faster growth rates compared to others, while still including the rule about that growth rate being even faster if you are ten levels higher than the persona. However, persona levels and party experience not being evenly shared were completely removed and for the better. Obtaining cards is easier since you collect arcana cards that can then be used to summon the demon of your choice, but admittedly removes all fusion mechanics beyond adding cards into a summon to make a persona fundamentally different. This removes the fun of fusion, but with the level of tedium from Persona 1, I understand the change as it is here until future Persona games bring back fusion into a more enjoyable experience like other SMT games.
The actual combat becomes a lot closer to what fans are familiar with in future SMT titles as well as future Persona titles, though rather than have a press turn function, the combat is focused mostly on fusion. The character's bonds in this game are the focus and this comes in through fusion attacks which combine different persona moves to get sometimes good results, and also group negotiation with demons to allow your party to cooperate to convince demons to lend you their cards. There is no longer any grid system which I found disappointing as I had enjoyed it, and instead it follows a more typical way of battling according to attacks always being able to target all enemies regardless of location. Elements were balanced much better and weaknesses, repels, and nullifications were much less common for enemies as well as personas making the game of finding enemy weaknesses to still be enjoyable. There wasn't enough justification for aiming for weaknesses instead of just attacking with your best attack that did neutral damage however, and as such the combat often just ended up being spamming your favorite persona's attack. With an auto-battle function, the game can very often play itself. This would be less of a problem, but this game is quite easy, and requires little strategy with few bosses offering much challenge. Furthermore, the experience gain, and the amount of encounters is still very high. This makes exploration take very long periods of time and I can say that this game plays much better with a fast forward function nowadays to fast forward through the otherwise slower combat. I overall did enjoy it, but mostly as a mindless grinding game where I was strategically planning my next persona summons, who would they be assigned to, and so forth. The economy also gets completely shattered later on with money being so easily available that you would be a fool not to buy 99 beads and 99 chewing souls which feels necessary in the last dungeon.
Onto the characters and story. Persona 2's introduction is fantastic. There is a great introduction to the characters of Lisa, Eikichi, Maya and Yukino through the rather quick paced plot. The idea of rumors being utilized and coming true along with people's wishes being granted at the cost of others is an intriguing and interesting plot. At many points, this is played in really clever and fun ways that play with expectations. The rumor mechanic also plays into gameplay though it is a rather minor part of the game in my opinion and could have been realized in a much more full way.
The story is willing to take dark turns with serial arsonists burning a man to death in front of you, as well as seeing characters be forgotten by their friends and family beyond persona users who can still perceive them. It brings up a twisted mentality for the villain Joker who sees dreams as something that can be a burden on those unready to realize them. The masked circle is a compelling group of antagonists and led by Joker leads to some very diverse and unique objectives and settings to defeat them.
Up until this point, the character bonds also are quite well handled, I particularly really enjoyed Eikichi and Maya who always had fun banter with each other and Lisa. Along with Yukino feeling a bit like an outsider beyond her bond with Maya, but still having deep connections to the Persona 1 cast. I could definitely see how this party dynamic would be used to influence Persona 4's, and I can see how this cast can be people's favorites just like future games as some people will resonate with this cast more.
This is until the halfway point of the game. At this point of the game, Innocent Sin takes a nosedive. Once you discover the secret of the main characters' amnesia and the motivations for Joker/Jun as an antagonist, I lost a great deal of suspension of disbelief. There is so much wrong with Jun's motivations. For one, he is trying to torture and kill the main party because of the perceived murder of Maya, yet Jun unlike Lisa, didn't look into the situation at the shrine a single time to find out that Maya was still alive basing this all on assumptions. Despite knowing who Tatsuya Sudou is, and how he is different from Tatsuya Suou, he immeidately believes that it is Suou's fault, even though he also knows that Sudou is a serial arsonist and even has him in the Masked Circle as one of his allies who is burning people alive and laying bombs around the city... On top of this, he also starts up the nazi rumors at this point, which were conspiracy theories written by his nazi sympathizer father (Who is not chastized at all for having written nazi propoganda). This all leading into an end of the world plot where Jun raises the city into the sky in order to bring about Xibalba to wipe out humanity to bring about an 'evolution'. This is mostly handwaved away with all the characters (Except maybe Tatsuya if you choose to play him as not forgiving Jun) forgiving Jun in an instant and mostly blaming it all on Nyarlothotep. Though, through numerous dialogue spots in the game, we find out that Jun was fully aware of what he was doing this entire time even without Nyarlathotep's influence. To me, this jumps the shark dramatically.
To expound on this, this is where we start dealing with character's shadows and I found most of them to be out of character or out of no where reveals that felt like shock value just like the nazis. Yukino reveals that she sleeps around despite there being no evidence that she would even think of doing this in Persona 1, and all the events of P2 where she seems faithful to her new lover, and in the 'bad' scene where you have Yukino not present to confront her shadow, she kisses Anna in a predatory way only pushing negative stereotypes about bi women sleeping around. With Lisa, there was absolutely no hint or clue that she had done drugs or swindled old men, which is baffling considering how much random dialogue we get in other scenes and locations. Yet not a single clue toward this. I would have been satisfied if we had an old man NPC comment about recognizing Lisa in one of the many store stops, but this isn't the case. It could be argued Lisa was doing a relatively harmless drug like marijuana, but the dialogue suggests something of a more extreme nature which again wasn't shown in any way through the story. Having known people who were negatively effected by drugs and drug addiction through my life this type of hamfisted shoving into a story I dislike greatly. Eikichi's isn't too offensive, but again conflicts with lines he had in stores where he admits the narcissism is an act and he regularly talks poorly about himself, only for his shadow to push this idea that he is entirely narcissistic. Though, this mostly was for Miyabi who was the more tragic character in this with her plotline being toward her being overweight and the almost shame she has for her self for it (Which I find offensive when her weight loss wasn't undone in the ending, undermining Eikichi's unconditional love for her). Tatsuya's is nice as it finally gives some dialogue to him when he's otherwise almost mute for the entire story, but wasn't something I'd comment much on.
Also pushing to a plot contrivance where Yukino loses her Persona to Jun, when Jun just could have gotten a new persona from numerous other ways. It seems like a weird way to force her out of the story when she could have just gone to fight with the rest of the Persona 1 cast seen at Tony's to help out the P2 cast in the background.
All of these plot points end up being very shallow for the most part and feel like a low point for the entire game.
Leading to the ending which starts to actually pick up again. Despite how far the shark was jumped and how my suspension of disbelief was blown, the sincere friendship I felt between the main cast had a lot of emotional beats that I enjoyed. Even leading to the ending having a rather beautiful and melancholic end, where Maya dies in a tragic way which distracts the party long enough for Nyarlathotep to destroy the world. There, given the choice by Philemon a god that was all but having a contest with Nyarlathotep with you as pawns to reverse Maya's death by forgetting all the events of the game. It is a tragic end that brings toward the memory plotline in a really sweet way, especially upon seeing the epilogue where the characters still end up being brought together despite their lack of shared memories. Giving the option to punch Philemon for using you as pawns is also satisfying.
This leads into my overall feelings for the story. I overall think that all the shock value moments were completely unnecessary and detracted from this game. All of the shadows and nazis could be removed, and replaced with more screen time for the Masked Circle and I think this game would be much more effective as a story. Furthermore, from all the rumors I had heard going into this story about Persona 2 having the best LGBT+ representation, I was greatly disappointed. Yukino shows really negative stereotypes toward bi women, and as do the two trans NPCs in the game with a trans woman being seen as disgusting by Eikichi before becoming vain and joining the villains, and the other is a trans man flashing their genitals to Tatsuya and Maya in a public store. Leading us finally to Jun and Tatsuya. For its time, Jun being gay was a standout, but ultimately I was very unsatisfied with its implementation. I think that Jun and Tatsuya's relationship has a good set up with their past and is cute, however Jun's design is based off of stereotypes towards gay men being effeminate and particularly uses a lot of Freud's outdated and negative theories toward gay men being narcissistic which is evident by the game talks about Jun being Tatsuya's shadow and resembling him greatly using direct wording that Freud would. Ultimately this only adds to a single line of dialogue where Lisa hardly believes Tatsuya is serious and still plans to steal Tatsuya away anyway, a line of dialogue where Jun asks Tatsuya out to visit a restaurant with him, and finally their ability to hold hands in demon negotiations. I understand that this was a big deal for its time, and can understand why so many people who find interest in this considering the lack of content in 1999, however the game seems to treat it very poorly with the end game having Lisa kiss Tatsuya no matter who he chose, and also having a star-crossed lovers ending sequence with Maya even if you chose to pick Jun as your romantic partner. Jun gets nothing like this in the ending, which is incredibly disappointing and shows that he wasn't seen in the same light as Lisa and Maya at the time of the game's release. I am happy that there is at least this much, but I hope that I expressed why by no means I think that this game should be recommended for its LGBT+ content since its overall negative. The game has other merits to recommend it that I hope I have outlined in my review, but LGBT+ content, as well as the mishandled controversial topics before I mentioned are not.
The art of this game is very good, and I can see easily how this art direction carried forward to all future mainline titles. The increased number of character portraits allows for more expression in the game than in P1, and their expressiveness is honestly very impressive. Many faces either had me laugh out loud, or understand completely the pain the characters were going through. The spritework was also improved with the pixel art in the game, allowing models to move more fluidly, more animations, and also more detailed demons and personas despite each one being modeled in the four diagonal directions for combat. The music was stellar from what I could tell, and I loved the style of this game.
This all leading to my final conclusion of this game. Persona 2: Innocent Sin is plagued with rumors. People who have played very little of this game will make grandiose statements that will never live up to expectations, while some of its long term fans cannot possibly hope to express its strengths in a meaningful way without dulling the listener. Do not buy into the hype or negativity surrounding this game, you have to experience it yourself to understand what this game accomplishes and what it fails in since the rumors surrounding it will not give you a good idea of what you are in for (Though please play it with a speedup option to fast forward combat). This game both heavily inspired future Persona games, while also being its wholly own thing. It has high highs, and at times offensive low lows. It is a very experimental JRPG that both took confident steps forward, while also stumbling terribly at some portions. Persona 2: Innocent Sin gets a 3.5/5.