Backloggd Showdown #1: The Debut

Update: Results
Thanks everyone who took part! There were 30 participants for a total of 300 votes across 156 total voted games.

This has been a big help in deciding how I'll run these going forward. For one thing I'm turning the results into a top 10 instead of top 20 like Letterboxd, since our reach isn't nearly as big, so there's a lot of tie breakers in the top 20.

I also went back on my "counting whatever game is voted for" here, sorry. For the purpose of this showdown Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were counted as the same votes, so I added them together specifically because if I didn't do that we'd need a tie-breaker round for 10th place. In the future there's going to be some quality control in this kind of stuff anyway - nothing crazy, but I'll open a discord thread for people to ask questions, talk about others votes (never arguing, just saying something like "I think you made a mistake" etc).

See you guys for the next one!

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If you've ever seen a Letterboxd Showdown, it's pretty much that.
If you haven't seen a Letterboxd showdown, essentially the idea if that you are given a theme/prompt and you choose your 10 favourite games from that theme/prompt. The results are tallied, and in the end a top 20 list is created. Nice and simple!

Since this is the debut of these showdowns, I figure why not go with debut games in their series/franchise. Just pick your 10 favourite games that are the first in their given series or franchise.

General Rules/Tips:
-Write your list in the comments. You can include up to 10 games in your list. If you add more than 10, anything after 10 will be ignored. You can add less than 10 if you want, and all will be counted.

-When games share titles, try to be as clear as possible with the game you're voting for. In this showdown specifically it might not be a huge deal, but for future sake if you say something like "Resident Evil" I will take whichever result comes up first in the list, regardless of if you meant the 1996 original or the 2002 remake.

-The order of your list doesn't matter. Every vote is just worth 1 point (and you can't vote for the same game more than once, if you do it'll only count once).

-Do not argue in the comments with anyone else's choices and whether or not they fit the criteria. Not only would this make the comments messier for me to read when counting results, but this is all just for fun and I don't care if you consider "Mario Bros" or "Super Mario Bros" to be the series debut game. Even with answers that are obviously wrong, I will count them because, again this might not be too much of a problem in this one, but I'm not fact checking if every game voted for fits a criteria so it's easier to just accept everything than spend my time sorting the right from the wrong. As long as most people play normally a few troll answers won't affect the results.

Showdown specific rules:
-A series/franchise in this case generally means at least 2 games, so no voting for games that are the only one in their series. Like I said, I'll end up counting them anyway just because it's a headache to check every answer viability, but as a guideline I'd prefer people follow this. Unreleased, but confirmed, sequels will allow that first game be eligible.

-There is no criteria for what exactly is meant by best/favourite debut game. Best relative to the rest of the series, best at setting the standards for the series, best just if played as a standalone game etc. You can pick and choose which standards to use to decide your votes.

I don't have a set schedule for these. I do plan to at least close the voting in 2 weeks, then the tallying will vary depending on how well I've been keeping up, and how many people are voting (plus of course how much free time I have in 2 weeks).

Note: If you want to change any of your answers please don't delete your original comment. I will be marking down results as I go through, so if you delete a comment to make changes it might mess up the game count. Just leave your original comment and say in your new comment "replace X for Y"

Silent Hill
Silent Hill
10 Votes

1

Katamari Damacy
Katamari Damacy
9 Votes

2

Portal
Portal
7 Votes

3

Demon's Souls
Demon's Souls
7 Votes (Demon's Souls 4 votes, Dark Souls 3 votes)

4

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
6 Votes

5

Pikmin
Pikmin
6 Votes

6

Doom
Doom
5 Votes

7

Metroid
Metroid
5 Votes

8

Pokémon Red Version
Pokémon Red Version
5 Votes (counted with Pokémon Blue/Green)

9

Super Smash Bros.
Super Smash Bros.
5 Votes

10

36 Comments


3 months ago

My list:
1. Dead Rising
2. Oddworld Abe's Oddysee
3. The Last of Us
4. Hades
5. Bravely Default
6. Luigi's Mansion
7. Banjo Kazooie
8. Psychonauts
9. Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
10. Overwatch

3 months ago

Neat idea, always like seeing the Showdowns on LB. My picks for round 1:

Max Payne
Silent Hill
Broken Sword
Pikmin
SSX
Katamari Damacy
LittleBigPlanet
Animal Crossing
The Darkside Detective
World of Goo

3 months ago

This is such a fun idea, I really love this!

My list:
1.Doom (1993)
2.Dark Souls
3. Mario & Luigi Super Star Saga
4. WarioWare, Inc
5. Portal
6. Everhood
7. Punch-Out!! (NES)
8. SUPERHOT
9.Metroid
10. Metal Slug
Cool shit

1. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney
2. Marvel’s Spider-Man
3. A Plague Tale Innocence
4. Hades
5. Overwatch
6. Plants vs Zombies
7. Superhot
8. Portal
9. Skylanders Spyro’s Adventure
10. Pokemon Red and Blue

3 months ago

1. Xenoblade Chronicles
2. Pikmin
3. Dark Souls
4. Lisa the Painful
5. Hollow Knight
6. Hades
7. Hotline Miami
8. Portal
9. Mike Tyson's Punch Out!!
10. Oxenfree

3 months ago

1. Katamari Damacy
2. Yoshi's Island
3. Mega Man X
4. Doom (1993)
5. Paper Mario
6. Armored Core
7. Donkey Kong (1994) (In reference to the Mario vs DK series)
8. Castlevania (1986)
9. Spyro the Dragon
10. Super Mario Bros

3 months ago

1. Kingdom Hearts
2. Demons Souls
3. Bravley Default
4. Psychonauts
5. Ratchet & Clank (2002)
6. Shovel Knight (Later renamed with the 'Shovel of Hope' subtitle)
7. Jak & Daxter
8. Paper Mario
9. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team
10. Super Smash Bros. (64)

3 months ago

1. Pokemon Red/Blue
2. Metroid
3. Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (1990)
4. Everhood
5. Paper Mario
6. Shovel Knight (2014 original, now Shovel of Hope)
7. Splatoon
8. Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (as the first Wario Land)
9. Pac-Man (1980)
10. Wii Sports

3 months ago

1. Pikmin (2001)
2. Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (1990)
3. Silent Hill (1999)
4. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (2005)
5. Pac-Man (1980)
6. Portal (2007)
7. No More Heroes (2007)
8. Castlevania (1986)
9. Devil May Cry (2001)
10. Final Fantasy (1987)

3 months ago

1. Final Fantasy
2. Silent Hill
3. Drakengard
4. Chrono Trigger
5. MOTHER
6. The Legend of Zelda
7. Metal Gear
8. Pathologic
9. One Night, Hot Springs
10. Metroid

3 months ago

1. Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards
2. Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior
3. Zero Escape: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
4. Bloons TD
5. Team Fortress Classic
6. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
7. Pokemon Ranger
8. Scribblenauts
9. Digimon World
10. Mike Tyson's Punch Out!!

3 months ago

1 The House in Fata Morgana
2 Banjo-Kazooie
3 Ape Escape
4 Katamari Damacy
5 Hotline Miami
6 ESP Ra.De.
7 Space Channel 5
8 Half-Life
9 Rhythm Tengoku
10 Xenogears

3 months ago

1. Doom
2. The House in Fata Morgana
3. Deus Ex
4. Katamari Damacy
5. Assetto Corsa
6. Chibi-Robo
7. X-COM
8. Crazy Taxi
9. Ultima Underworld
10. Animal Crossing

3 months ago

1. wizardry: proving grounds of the mad overlord (1980)
2. doom
3. system shock (1994)
4. thief: the dark project
5. resident evil (1996)
6. pathologic
7. deus ex
8. devil may cry
9. lobotomy corporation
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: shadow of chernobyl

3 months ago

Boku no Natsuyasumi
Portal
Kingdom Hearts
The Last of Us
Bioshock
Silent Hill
Myst
Panzer Dragoon
Katamari Damacy
Metal Gear Solid

3 months ago

1. Fantasy Life
2. Bravely Default
3. Dark Souls (or demons souls I guess)
4. Silent Hill
5. Chibi-Robo!
6. Dishonored
7. Castlevania
8. Higurashi
9. The Evil Within
10. Dead Rising

3 months ago

1. Spyro the Dragon
2. Castlevania (NES)
3. Pokemon R/G/B/Y
4. Metroid
5. Star Fox
6. Silent Hill
7. Mega Man X
8. Warioware Inc. Mega MicroGame$
9. Super Monkey Ball/Monkey Ball
10. Ninja Gaiden (NES)

3 months ago

Shovel Knight - Shovel of Hope
Banjo Kazooie
Katamari Damacy
Pokemon Red/Blue
Psychonauts
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1989, Arcade, which was developed at the same time as the '89 NES title)
Animal Crossing
Halo: Combat Evolved
Spyro the Dragon
Super Smash Bros

3 months ago

1. Portal
2. Katamari Damacy
3. Jet Set Radio
4. Metroid Prime
5. Half Life
6. Gravity Rush
7. Chibi Robo
8. Silent Hill
9. Klonoa
10. Donkey Kong Country

3 months ago

1. Gravity Rush
2. Professor Layton and the Curious Village
3. Splatoon
4. Psychonauts
5. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
6. Hotline Miami
7. Portal
8. Devil May Cry
9. PaRappa the Rapper
10. Bayonetta

3 months ago

- Pokemon Red/Green/Blue
- Demon's Souls
- Armored Core
- Risk of Rain
- MOTHER
- No More Heroes
- Pokemon Trading Card Game (there was a japan-only sequel)
- System Shock (1994)
- Xenoblade Chronicles
- Katamari Damacy

3 months ago

1.Mario Party
2.Pikmin
3.Plants Vs. Zombies
4.Luigi's Mansion (2001)
5.No More Heroes (2007)
6.Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (2003)
7.Warioware Inc. Mega Microgames!
8.Yo-Kai Watch (2013)
9.Rhythm Tengoku (2006)
10. The World Ends With You: Final Remix (2018)

3 months ago

1. Spelunky (2012)
2. Risk of Rain (2013)
3. Golden Sun
4. Ys I Chronicles+
5. Silent Hill (1999)
6. Final Fantasy (1987)
7. Demon's Souls (2009)
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Deus Ex
10. Ico

3 months ago

1. Devil May Cry (2001)
2. Resident Evil (2002)
3. Metroid
4. Armored Core
5. Shin Megami Tensei (1992)
6. F-Zero
7. Wipeout
8. Yakuza (2005)
9. Bayonetta
10. The Legend of Zelda

3 months ago

1. Summon Night: Swordcraft Story (1st in the "Swordcraft Story" subseries)
2. Tetris (1st in the "Tetris" series)
3. Pikmin (1st in the "Pikmin" series)
4. Mega Man Legends (1st in the "Mega Man Legends" subseries)
5. Paper Mario (1st in the "Paper Mario" series)
6. Klonoa: Door to Phantomile (1st in the "Klonoa" series)
7. Super Smash Bros. (First in the "Super Smash Bros" series)
8. Luigi's Mansion (1st in the "Luigi's Mansion" series)
9. Octopath Traveler (1st in the "Octopath" series)
10. Super Mario Bros. (1st in the "Super Mario" series)

Fun idea, I'll have to keep an eye out on these!

3 months ago

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3 months ago

(Above deleted post is mine to fix some typos)
Thanks for all the votes so far guys. Just about a week left. This is great for letting me know what kind of rules and stuff should be in place in the future. My "accept any game no matter what" rule is one I'm already pretty 50/50 on. Luckily it hasn't mattered much here, but there's a few cases.

Demon Souls being voted for despite not having a "true" sequel, while Dark Souls also having votes, so do I combine them or count them separately?

Resident Evil's remake has been voted for, which is shaking the line of "debut game" imo. But it also hurts the chances of the remake specifically because every other vote for Resident Evil has either specified the original, or not specified anything, so within the rules of the showdown I've just counted each vote as the original until this one. This means Resident Evil has effectively "lost" a vote, while the remake has little to no chance at winning.

A few people have voted for "MOTHER", and while I do know this is also Earthbound Beginnings in English (which no one has voted for in that name) if this were a case where I didn't know the game changed titles between Japan and English, and people were voting for both, I'd end up counting them as separate things.

For this one I'm still going to count every game as a separate vote as I said I would, especially since all cases are minor here, but in the future I'll probably put up a thread on the discord when I link the next showdown so these kind of topics can be discussed and people can maybe point out some things that I may miss.

Another thing I'm likely to change is the "top 20" thing. While it works for Letterboxd, our reach is much lower, so a top 15 or top 10 is more likely. I may even need to have a second round with a limited seleciton of games chosen specifically from the most voted, simply because right now there are 138 total games submitted, with 55 having 2 or more votes. If I were to pick the top 20, I'd be going into games with 3 votes, but the problem is ranks 13-31 have 3 votes right now, which would make it impossible to make a top 20 with any kind of fairness (Top 10 suffers similar issues with 4 votes, but much less so). At the end of this new week I'll decide what to do (e.g make a short tie breaker with people only being allowed to vote only for those that are fighting for the end of the list, or make a full second round counting only games with 2 or more votes). Which of these methods would you guys prefer if it comes to it?

3 months ago

Also forget what I said about Resident Evil, it turned out the original has only had 1 vote so far, which was specified as the original. But the overall point about it still stands lol.

3 months ago

1. Manhunt
2. Okami
3. Shadow Man
4. Demon's Souls
5. Koudelka
6. Skate
7. Maximo: Ghosts to Glory
8. Colin McRae Rally
9. Viewtiful Joe
10. Metal Slug

3 months ago

neat.
1. No More Heroes
2. Deus Ex
3. Resident Evil (PS1)
4. Silent Hill
5. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
6. Seaman
7. The Neverhood
8. Hotline Miami
9. Fallout
10. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team


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