Roasting my favorite games
I usually don't hop on list trends but I liked the idea of this one a lot and I also think the more I like a game the more I think about ways it could be better. More than roasting I'm mostly just picking out things I would change or add on to make the games even better. If you are curious about why I still have a game at 5 stars despite all the stuff I mention feel free to comment and I'll be happy to elaborate.
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i actually found the orbital navigation the most engaging part of outer wilds, what keeps me away is the main story funnily enough. i was expecting a game where i can just do whatever
@imshitting420 Thanks for the comment! I actually don't dislike the orbital navigation and grew to really enjoy it over my play through I just know some people that got overwhelmed by it and gave up because of it.
@TimAlien yee
Alright this is definitely a respectable list but I do have some issues with your points against Persona 5. First of all, which Social Links would you say are problematic? I'm assuming you're talking about the adult confidants you can romance which is...fair enough. However I'd also like to say there are some really good ones like Iwai's, Mishima's, Yoshida's, Sojiro's and Akechi's in Royal for example. Also I definitely agree with the dialogue choice problem but I think this was in Persona 3 and carried on into 5. Enabling the characters to do stupid shit like the guy wanting to fuck his teacher in Persona 3 and you have to approve for the sweet rank up points. However I definitely agree that Persona 5 should've fixed this.
The puzzles...I personally enjoyed them, sure they're not hard but it's definitely nice to have to use your brain once in a while unlike in P3 and 4 where you're kind of just walking around yknow? But again, Understandable. Also the daily life thing wasn't too bad for me since the waiting times weren't too egregious on PS4 but totally understand if that's a flaw in your opinion.
I'm somewhat biased towards this game seeing as it is my first Persona game and a pretty important game in general for me but I'm always willing to hear out other perspectives especially seeing as you have some really interesting takes and actually reasonable unlike some of the people shitting on Persona 5 to be unique I guess.
The puzzles...I personally enjoyed them, sure they're not hard but it's definitely nice to have to use your brain once in a while unlike in P3 and 4 where you're kind of just walking around yknow? But again, Understandable. Also the daily life thing wasn't too bad for me since the waiting times weren't too egregious on PS4 but totally understand if that's a flaw in your opinion.
I'm somewhat biased towards this game seeing as it is my first Persona game and a pretty important game in general for me but I'm always willing to hear out other perspectives especially seeing as you have some really interesting takes and actually reasonable unlike some of the people shitting on Persona 5 to be unique I guess.
(also I apologise for the yapping and possibly coming off as a dick in my last paragraph, I'm not good at conveying tone in text.)
@G0dot Thanks for the comment! Don't get me wrong. Persona 5 is still one of my few 5 star games and I love it. It was my first Persona game as well and means a ton to me. It's spot on this list shows it's my 4th favorite game of all time!
Problematic social links are as you mentioned, mostly just Kawashima and Ohya/Takemi to a lesser extent. I also felt like most of the main party member links were kind of unremarkable. I'm not trying to say that the majority aren't great and I love all the links you mentioned. Not that they're bad but these are things I'd like to see improved about the game to make it perfect/better.
The attempt at puzzles is not a problem either and I agree they have the potential to give you a break to use your mind I just thought they were a little too easy and took to long to solve. The space puzzle in Okumura's palace is a good example because even if you've already figured it out in your mind it takes forever to follow through with it. One thing to say is that I just loved the combat so much I wanted to get the puzzles over with to get to the content that was more fun for me.
And the waiting in the daily life sections is understandable for sure it does make you feel like you're really living out every day I'm just thinking of ways to trim the fat of the game because I think I took 120 hours to play vanilla p5 and 140 or so for royal which don't get me wrong, was still a lot of time that I had fun, but I made my suggestions mostly to help with pacing etc.
Problematic social links are as you mentioned, mostly just Kawashima and Ohya/Takemi to a lesser extent. I also felt like most of the main party member links were kind of unremarkable. I'm not trying to say that the majority aren't great and I love all the links you mentioned. Not that they're bad but these are things I'd like to see improved about the game to make it perfect/better.
The attempt at puzzles is not a problem either and I agree they have the potential to give you a break to use your mind I just thought they were a little too easy and took to long to solve. The space puzzle in Okumura's palace is a good example because even if you've already figured it out in your mind it takes forever to follow through with it. One thing to say is that I just loved the combat so much I wanted to get the puzzles over with to get to the content that was more fun for me.
And the waiting in the daily life sections is understandable for sure it does make you feel like you're really living out every day I'm just thinking of ways to trim the fat of the game because I think I took 120 hours to play vanilla p5 and 140 or so for royal which don't get me wrong, was still a lot of time that I had fun, but I made my suggestions mostly to help with pacing etc.
@TimAlien I'm really glad you enjoyed the game and yes I agree with the party member social links being mediocre, I think Ann and Makoto had really disappointing links and Ann in general had so much potential but man does the game love to contradict it's themes after the first palace a lot.
As for the Okumura puzzles, it can definitely fuck with your mind a bit even if you feel like you know what you're supposed to do. Also totally agree with the Combat being addicting, you can only get such a fine turn based combat from a MegaTen Game :D oh and also I absolutely agree with the game being too damn long.
As for the Okumura puzzles, it can definitely fuck with your mind a bit even if you feel like you know what you're supposed to do. Also totally agree with the Combat being addicting, you can only get such a fine turn based combat from a MegaTen Game :D oh and also I absolutely agree with the game being too damn long.
I would've loved it if they had really leaned into the physics gameplay of ravenholm in half life 2 by taking away the players guns somehow at the start of the level. Maybe you deposit them in a locker when you arrive at the resistance base and don't get a chance to grab them after getting the gravity gun and escaping? Maybe give the shotgun back partway through when you meet grigori.
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